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Barauni–Lucknow Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep all listed today Bolierplate statement on each nom that comes down to 'my PROD was rejected, so this is the next step'. Please explain on each of these noms a broader statement as to why you're seeking deletion than the same rationale across all of them. They're also too numerous to ever come to a consensus on all of them, and at worst they will all be redirected to an omnibus article, not deleted. Nate • (chatter) 18:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because these are basically the same article, just about different non-notable subjects. There are hundreds of such articles created by a small bunch of users that all follow a similar pattern and that is why the same rationale works for each of them. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:44, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The articles about the trains from this list that I have checked appear to be mechanically generated from entries in some database. Their content is mostly identical and each article does not appear to warrant its own discussion. Essentially, we have here a timetable of Indian railroads in a representation that is very inconvenient to use. Indeed these articles can be combined into one table that pretty much will be a copy of the original database. Since a timetable for the Indian railroads must already exist somewhere, a better solution might be to redirect them to a single article about the timetable itself with no details about particular trains, for the latter the article in turn will contain a link to the original, always up-to-date, searchable database. The schedule of regular trains updates many times a year, so we really should not get ourselves sucked into maintenance of these articles. Викидим (talk) 18:44, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The timetable: [1]. This website is used in the references of nearly all Indian Railway service-related articles, whether notable or non-notable. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: This article does not meet WP:GNG. It may fall under WP:ROTM. We can instead redirect to a broader article that covers train services in India. Such an article will arrange the details in a more helpful and easy to maintain format. It will also retain the essential info in these many entries.--AstridMitch (talk) 19:15, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barauni–Gondia Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bapudham Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is just a WP:ROTM service. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Banka–Rajendra Nagar Terminal Intercity Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bangriposi–Bhubaneswar Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bangarapet–Bangalore City Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bangalore City–Nagercoil Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KSR Bengaluru–Kannur Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Veraval Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Udaipur Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Ramnagar Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Palitana Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Muzaffarpur Avadh Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Mahuva Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:15, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Mahuva Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:15, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Veraval Saurashtra Janta Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is just a WP:ROTM service. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Jaisalmer Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Hisar Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Haridwar Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Barauni Avadh Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is just a WP:ROTM service. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Gandhidham Weekly Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Delhi Sarai Rohilla Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Bikaner Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Abhijeet Kumar Jatav

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Fails WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Lost Lok Sabha seat and being a mayor of Bharatpur Municipal Corporation doesn’t automatically confer notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Bhuj AC Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Patna Weekly Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Jaipur Weekly Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandra Terminus–Bhavnagar Terminus Weekly Superfast Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Asansol–Gorakhpur Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:03, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Asansol–Gonda Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:03, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arakkonam–Jolarpettai Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Christopher McGimpsey

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:ANYBIO. Being a councillor does not automatically confer notability, and criteria for GNG isn’t satisfied either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Amritsar–Nangal Dam Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 18:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ambala–Amb Andaura DEMU

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Subedarganj–Dehradun Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alappuzha–Kannur Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ajmer–Hyderabad Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame, thus it is just WP:ROTM. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ahmedabad–Varanasi Weekly Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This article fails WP:GNG. The train service does not have historical significance and may not be notable since it lacks coverage in independent sources, raising concerns about being WP:INDISCRIMINATE. We should keep the articles only if they are helpful and have several reliable sources, which is not the case here. The article might fit better in a rail or transport database.--AstridMitch (talk) 18:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmedabad–Sultanpur Weekly Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ahmedabad–Shri Mata Vaishno Devi Katra Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ahmedabad–Patna Weekly Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ahmedabad–Lucknow Weekly Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ahmedabad–Gorakhpur Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:39, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Agra Fort–Ramnagar Tri-Weekly Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:39, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Existence at the date of the timetable has been proven. Notability is not proven. WP:BEFORE suggests this is a WP:ROTM service. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge this and all the other articles prodded and deprodded at the same time to an article or list, per the deprodding summary. There is no reason not to WP:PRESERVE the encyclopaedic content just because the article is not independently notable. Thryduulf (talk) 18:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Agra Fort–Ramnagar Weekly Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Agartala–Garjee Passenger

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Agartala–Silchar Express

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Since this was dePRODed, I am creating an AfD. In my opinion, the article does not meet guidelines for WP:NOTABILITY. It is not a named service, nor is it any special unnamed service that has some claim to fame. The article seems WP:INDISCRIMINATEly created and more suited to a rail information website. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Temple, Indiana

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The cited history calls this Temple Station, which is what it looks like. I'm not seeing evidence it ever actually developed into a town. Mangoe (talk) 17:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Flag of Lord Howe Island

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Unreliably sourced and non-notable, some guy made an unofficial flag, the majority of mentions online appear to be citogenesis. Alexphangia Talk 17:13, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Flags of cities, towns and villages in the Netherlands

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WP:NOTGALLERY, WP:ORP, WP:UNSOURCED, WP:NOTNOTABLE and fork of List of municipal flags of the Netherlands. Alexphangia Talk 17:13, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Blank and redirect to List of municipal flags of the Netherlands, in order to preserve the history for attribution, and add a hatnote at the target for the historical list. The updated list provides the same information as this gallery but also has sources and prose descriptions, which this article has been flagged as needing for several years. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 17:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Château de Saint-Hubert, Chavenon

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There are no sources in the English Wikipedia. The WP:PROD was declined by Necrothesp who pointed to the sources in the French Wikipedia. I have searched each one of the still available ones (for most, these are archive copies, originals are long gone, some archive copies are also lost) for the word "Hubert" and did not find a single one that was related to the mansion. In particular, the first reference in French is to a thesis (almost 20 PDF files had to be downloaded, since the page numbers are not provided in the French article) apparently uses the word "Hubert" in 3 cases: "Alexis-Hubert Jaillot", "Hubert Macé" (twice). I therefore propose that, unless someone can point me to the errors in my source research (with chapter and verse), to Delete the article. Викидим (talk) 16:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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David Riehm

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Fails to meet WP:GNG (specifically WP:SIGCOV), WP:NBASIC, or WP:FILMMAKER. There is no mention of any films actually made, and the only news coverage of the subject falls under WP:BLPCRIME.

Looking at the citations and external links, there is:

One dead link to a blog post
The first page of a CourtTV article, comprised of a WP:PRIMARY copy of his essay and four sentence summary of the events.
Pioneer Press article: a local newspaper with mentions of the subject where he is not the focus. It cites the CourtTV article for information about Riehm.
Star Tribune article: a local newspaper article largely covering the notable event. I would say this is the closes to WP:SIGCOV and furthest from WP:PRIMARY
Two additional dead links to news stories

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Tale of the Tribe

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Fails WP:NBOOK. Unpublished books can be notable, but I could barely find any coverage of this book during WP:BEFORE. Astaire (talk) 16:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Deceivers (Aiello novel)

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Besides the review pre-existing review from the Pittsburgh post gazette in the article, I failed to find a second review that would satisfy WP:NBOOK. While this might look like an independent review at a first glance, it fails to be independent with this disclaimer here: "You have an indie book. We have several dozen talented reviewers. Let's just make it happen. Foreword offers honest, credible reviews of indie books, and we've been doing it for over 20 years." -1ctinus📝🗨 15:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I found a second review: Klett, Rex E. "The Deceivers." Library Journal, vol. 124, no. 13, Aug. 1999, p. 145. However, it is barely 100 words long, so YMMV whether this is "non-trivial" coverage. Astaire (talk) 16:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. First of all, there is no redirect target since the author does not have an article. Then, it comes down to whether there is enough source material to build an encyclopedic article about the book, and there is not. Geschichte (talk) 19:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Gharios El Chemor of Ghassan Al-Numan VIII

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Per an IP at WP:BLP/N, this article is "a complete PR/puff page with self-published sources, press releases, purchased awards, and myriad other issues. I looked up a bunch of policies to help clean it up but in the end I don't know what to do about it, given it's still just a complete mess, the entire title is fake, and is maintained by an SPA."

I can't help agreeing with them, mainly because I can't actually find a claim of notability that is backed up by RS. Black Kite (talk) 15:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It isn't a page based on self-published sources, there are several independent sources including official government pages (Albania and Lebanon) and you can't purchase a Kentucky Colonelship.

I have used his self published books as a reference only to the books name, not to any relevant information about the person himself.

The claim on notability is based on several important sources mentioning him, including the Government of Lebanon, Albania,the Armenian orthodox church, the city of Petrópolis in Brazil, the Global Imams Council and so on

If his titles are fake is not the point of this article, there is even a source saying that he is a fake prince and a fake martial artist

I am the creator of the page, I'm just not logged in.

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Comment According to the edit-summary here the Kentucky Colonelship is also fake. Black Kite (talk) 17:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. The sources cited are utterly worthless as evidence for the existence of this title, never mind this individual's claim to it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But I didn't say it is evidence of his titles, but it is evidence of notability, being received officially by the President of Albania and the President of Lebanon is very much note worthy. As I said, this article is not debating if his titles are real or not, I even used one source that says his titles are fake. Leo0274 (talk) 16:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that there are numerous third-party sources from Lebanon and Jordan, as well as the Vatican, that recognize the Ghassanid history and royal house. The House is currently under review by the ICOC, which does recognize the House as Royal and is evaluating the awards. The Augustan Society has recognized the house and orders and history. The Marionite Church recognizes the House and history, as well as the current Arab Christian princes. Arbitration courts have rules the claim in valid and under international law is to be recognized. Comments so far show more ignorance than knowledge, and should not be the basis for deleting. There are sufficient third party sources to meet the Wikipedia requirements. Xianboyd (talk) 17:14, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He was featured by his title on news vehicles of Brazil, Lebanon, UAE, UK, Italy, Spain, Germany, USA, Israel, Jordan, Canada, Iraq, etc. If that's not notability, I don't know what it is! MasterKamalKhan (talk) 17:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Jerusalem Post: "...Prince Gharios El Chemor of the Arab dynasty of the Ghassanids, the only secular Christian leader from the Middle East recognized by multiple stakeholders, like governments (such as the Lebanese), Christian leaders (the Pope), the UN;..." https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/global-imams-council-builds-bridges-with-all-religions-642641 MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given that the claim that the 'Prince' is recognised by the UN is complete fiction, for multiple obvious reasons starting with the fact that the UN doesn't involve itself in determinations of the legitimacy of hereditary titles, I think we can discount the Jerusalem Post piece as the regurgitated press release it appears to be. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sir, with all due respect, regardless of the UN recognition the article mentions the recognition by the Global Imams Council, the world's largest body of Muslim leaders. That alone is reason for notability. MasterKamalKhan (talk) 19:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muslim Journal (America's largest Muslim newspaper): "...The Nation’s Mosque was surprised and pleased to have received an unexpected visit from His Royal High ness (HRH) Prince Gharios El Chemor of Ghassan Al-Nu’man VIII, the international sovereign head of the Royal House of Ghassan" https://muslimjournal.net/muslim-journal-vol-46-no-46-jul-30-2021/ https://royalblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/vol.-46-no.-46-july-30-2021.pdf MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. The subject seems to be a grifter attempting to portray themselves as some kind of VIP but there is little substance behind it when one digs deeper. D1551D3N7 (talk) 17:14, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please be specific? Could you provide refutation? MasterKamalKhan (talk) 17:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I used as a source a link from the presidential site of Albania about the official meeting with the president, and this article addresses Gharios as a Prince, the President also sent him a letter addressing him as Royal Highness, I tryed to link the web archive on the source, it is number source number 20, but it seems like it didn't work. Here is the link to the letter: https://royalblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/img_9887.jpg?w=728

There is also the presidential decree on Lebanon authorizing the Royal House to operate in the country, you may arguee that this is not a recognition of his titles, but it is evidence of notability. The page has been edited to remove the decree and other sources that I originally posted from the Lebanese Government, here are some of them:

https://www.jabalnamagazine.com/sections-details.php?id=2057

https://www.annahar.com/arabic/article/580869-%D8%B9%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%87%D9%86%D8%A3-%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%A8%D9%84-%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%88%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A7-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%81%D9%8A

https://www.thomasschirrmacher.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/BQ0661_Statement.pdf

https://royalblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/k3.pdf Leo0274 (talk) 18:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zenit News Agency: "... In an exclusive interview with ZENIT following his recent visits to the Vatican where he met Pope Francis and cardinals, Prince Gharios, the legitimate head of the house of Ghassan, the only Middle Eastern Christian dynasty still alive ..." https://zenit.org/2015/08/06/interview-prince-dirties-hands-to-help-middle-east-christians-have-one-concrete-voice/ MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Arab Newspaper: "...today Prince Gharios bin Al-Numan is at the head of the Ghassani royal house as the legitimate heir to the royal family..." https://alarab.co.uk/%D8%BA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B3-%D9%85%D9%84%D9%83-%D8%BA%D8%B3%D9%91%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%86 MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actuall (Spain): "...Currently, the heir and head of the Ghassanid Royal House is Prince Gharios and he tells Actuall about his great challenge: to protect millions of persecuted Christians in the areas where his family ruled." https://www.actuall.com/entrevista/persecucion/el-ultimo-principe-arabe-cristiano-mi-gran-mision-es-despertar-la-conciencia-de-occidente/ MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Idea (Germany): "The social scientist Prince Gharios of Ghassan" https://www.idea.de/spektrum/es-gibt-bei-muslimen-hass-gegen-juden-und-christen MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Lebanese leading newspaper An-Nahar "(President) Aoun received, in the presence of MP Dr. Naji Gharios, the delegation of the "Royal House of Ghassani Sovereign Society" headed by Prince Noman Gharios..." https://www.annahar.com/arabic/article/580869-%D8%B9%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%87%D9%86%D8%A3-%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%A8%D9%84-%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%88%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A7-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%81%D9%8A MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Official website from the President of Albania: "President Nishani hosted Prince Gharios El-Chemor of Ghassan Al-Nu'Man VIII" https://web.archive.org/web/20170817023304/http://president.al/?p=43487 MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The official agenda of the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople (Turkey): "... His Holiness the Patriarch accepted the hearing: Theophil. Evangelical Bishop Dr. Thomas Schirrmacher, of Germany, Adesim. Pastor Mr. Behnan Konutgan, and H.E. Prince Gharios of Ghassan Al-Nu ̓ Man VIII..." https://fanarion.blogspot.com/2016/07/13-2016.html?m=1 MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Gentleman's review (Hungary): "Exclusive interview with His Royal Highness Prince Gharios El Chemor Al-Nu’man VIII, Head of the Sovereign Imperial and Royal House of Ghassan " https://gentlemansreview.hu/royalty-is-about-serving/ MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You would do well to read Wikipedia:Reliable sources. We do not cite random blogs. We do not cite pdfs hosted on random websites. And we don't cite anything that merely repeats the title a man has given himself as evidence that he is a legitimate holder of that title. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the Wikipedia has authority to determine if a title is real or not. We are discussing notability and here you will find more than enough independent third-party news outlets, official websites of Bonafide entities, political and religious leaders that recognize him and clearly consider him notable enough to officially acknowledge his existence.

According to the cited Wikipedia:Reliable sources:

"News sources often contain both factual content and opinion content. News reporting from well-established news outlets is generally considered to be reliable for statements of fact.."

"Otherwise reliable news sources—for example, the website of a major news organization—that publish in a blog-style format for some or all of their content may be as reliable as if published in standard news article format (See also Wikipedia:Verifiability § Newspaper and magazine blogs)."

I presented here at least 10 (ten) sources that follow the aforementioned guidelines MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Augustan Society, American's leading Chivalric, Genealogical, Heraldic, Nobiliary, and Historical Society, founded 1957. Recognizes his claims: https://www.augustansociety.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Page.ViewPage&pageId=473 MasterKamalKhan (talk) 19:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Portal Evidencia (Brazil): "...the wedding of H.I.R.H. Prince Gharios El Chemor..." https://portalevidencia.com.br/coluna/sidinho-ramos/841-ponto-chic.html MasterKamalKhan (talk) 19:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AndyTheGrump, is there a way to see if the users bombarding this discussion are connected accounts? --164.64.118.102 (talk) 19:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Official website of the Armenian Orthodox Church: "HIS HOLINESS ARAM I RECEIVED PRINCE GHARIOS EL-CHEMOR OF GHASSAN AL-NU’MAN VIII" https://www.armenianorthodoxchurch.org/en/archives/22619 MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jabalna Magazine (Lebanon): "... Prince Gharios Al-Numan Al-Shammar announces on the eighth of next May in Beirut, the launch of the branch of the Ghassani House Association (or Ghassanids) in Lebanon in the presence of a crowd of stakeholders" https://www.jabalnamagazine.com/sections-details.php?id=2057 MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Official website of the International Sports Hall of Fame: "His Royal Highness Prince Gharios is the Sovereign Prince of the Arab Dynasty of the Ghassanids, ..." https://events.sportshof.org/sportshof-2022-inductees-prince-gharios/ MasterKamalKhan (talk) 18:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newspaper Tribuna de Petropolis (Brazil) "List of nominees for the title of Petropolitan Citizenship 2016:

Prince Gharios de Ghassan Al-Nu'man VIII," https://amp.tribunadepetropolis.com.br/noticias/sessao-solene-da-camara-comemora-os-174-anos-de-petropolis MasterKamalKhan (talk) 19:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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OneTax

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I can't find anything about "OneTax" other than records of a company with that name (which isn't what the article is about) and some self-published books which mostly seem to be copying from this article. The online references also don't mention OneTax (I couldn't check offline sources). As a whole, the article seems to just be general tax information. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 15:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of AeroLogic destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, WP:NLIST.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because the only source provided here is literally just three links to the company website. WP:NLIST is failed for the same reason.

Even as a WP:SPLITLIST this has to have stand-alone notability per WP:AVOIDSPLIT, which it clearly does not. FOARP (talk) 14:53, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shadow in the Mirror

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Ultimately, this novel fails WP:NBOOK because I was unable to find multiple reviews of the book. The only review I could find is here and here, but it appears that the second review is a blog, and thus fails WP:NBOOK, so if somebody is able to find a second review I will withdraw the nomination, but it seems unlikely. The novel is really obscure—for example, it only has one review on goodreads. -1ctinus📝🗨 14:39, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is two sentences, and not exactly something that holds much weight. Geschichte (talk) 19:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Czechoslovakia men's national softball team

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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 14:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Could not find any WP:SIGCOV as well. Vorann Gencov (talk) 15:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect (and merge?) as this is the predecessor of the Czech Republic men's national softball team per [2] and [3]. C 679 16:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Beamable

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Most if not all articles about Disruptor Beam and Beamable are simple announcements that fail WP:CORPDEPTH criteria. The article itself appears to fail WP:NCORP without significant coverage. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Roc City Hoops Classic

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG or WP:NEVENT due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Most of the sources here originate from the participating schools and are primary, and a check didn't find much more than some routine game recaps with the event being only mentioned in passing, such as [[4]]. Appears to be just a routine regular season game. Let'srun (talk) 14:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of SriLankan Airlines destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, and WP:NLIST.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations are listed even if the airline no longer flies there - and so excluded under WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because the only sources provided in this article come directly from the airline and thus aren't independent of it. The only sources provided here are the company website, Aeroroutes (an enthusiast blog based on data from the company website) and a press-release - realistically the company is only ever going to be the source for the flights it operates. WP:NLIST is failed for the same reasons.

There is no evidence here at all that this is a notable topic, with significant coverage in reliable, 3rd-party, independent sources that meet WP:ORGIND. Even a WP:SPLITLIST has to have stand-alone notability per WP:AVOIDSPLIT and this does not.

Whilst there is a paragraph of text content on this page, the information in this is already included entirely on the page about the airline. As such there is nothing to merge. FOARP (talk) 13:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Daryll Meggatt

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Fails GNG. A search in the archives found no SIGCOV just mentions in match reports. Dougal18 (talk) 13:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marc Douglas Berardo

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None of the sources here are ones I know to be reliable, and most appear to be small/local coverage. Nothing else here suggests an NBAND pass. One of his albums is already up for a separate AfD as well. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No Depression is reliable source. It is a highly respected music magazine. MarySue Twohy is program director at Sirius XM. Folk Dj is a international organization with a radio station It's part of Folk Alliance International. I believe he meets the criteria for having a single on national music chart if you consider Folk Alliance International https://www.folkradio.org/ Currently his new record is currently #24 on this chart. Two of his vidoes for singles were reviewed by Americana Highways, another respectable music publication although they are not listed in this article. The festivals that he won or was finalist are national competitions Lyle Lovett and Nanci Griffith were finalists at Kerrville. Most of the other references such as who he performed with were added to support a statement as being true. I agree it needs to be updated, but I not deleted. Performer Research (talk) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Folk Alliance International would be considered a valid chart as I would assume it falls under SINGLEVENDOR. No Depression should be reliable and Americana Highways is as far as I know (bit surprised to see neither listed at RSMUSIC), but it's still a bit limited. This could be turned around though. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would also help if you could link to the Americana Highways articles and any others you bring up that aren't already present. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I am not sure if FAI would be a single vendor. I am not quite understanding the definition. I am looking further into it. I am in the process of updating this page. It will take me a few days since it has not been updated in quite awhile. If there are other suggestions on making this page more compliant, I welcome them. Thank you. Performer Research (talk) 00:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Life with Elsie

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Article with flowery language for a non-notable memoir that fails the notability guildelines for books. No reviews or other mentions online that I could find. Sgubaldo (talk) 13:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:GNG. No WP:SIGCOV from reliable sources to prove notability. Prof.PMarini (talk) 14:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No evidence of passing WP:GNG/WP:NBOOKS which for me are more or less equivalent: we need in-depth coverage in independent reliable publications, most likely book reviews, but I couldn't find any. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I can only conclude that this book is self-published. "Briarwood Printing" is indeed a printing company, not a publisher, and seems to currently specialize in printing stickers. I don't find the book in any libraries holding it, and there is one copy available used on Amazon. Lamona (talk) 17:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It comes nowhere near to passing the relevant standard. The massive list of "references" is pure spam, since they predate the book: a local news story from 1949 cannot be evidence of the noteworthiness of a book published in 2006. This looks more like someone pasting their family genealogy notes into Wikipedia than a serious attempt to write an encyclopedia article. If there's not a personal COI through the author's family, there might be a professional one through his employer. XOR'easter (talk) 17:50, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biosynthesis of a Biotin Compound Containing ⁷⁵Se

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Non-notable dissertation; there is nothing independent, like a review, that mentions it anywhere. I suppose the closest notability guideline is WP:NBOOK or WP:TEXTBOOKS, and it doesn't pass either. Has previously been de-PRODed by article creator. Sgubaldo (talk) 13:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related page because it's another dissertation by the same author, created by the same user, that's just as non-notable:

Delete both Of all the things that would have to happen before we can entertain a separate article on a single publication, demonstrated enormous public recognition would be the first. These ain't no annus mirabilis papers. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:50, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No evidence of secondary coverage by RS, and Wikipedia isn't a place to post summaries of decades-old dissertations. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 13:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Both don't even attempt to demonstrate notability. Note that the user has been blocked before for insisting on creating pages about non-notable people. Tercer (talk) 14:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The user has also created several articles on the books (whose notability I also question) written by James A. Frost, the father of the person who wrote this dissertation. Sgubaldo (talk) 15:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both. I PRODed this when it was first created, but didn't want to fight it when the creator de-PRODed it. Reasoning above matches mine.— Moriwen (talk) 15:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both. We have no evidence of WP:NBOOK notability such as would be provided by multiple independent in-depth published reviews of these works. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both. It is exceedingly rare for theses to be notable as publications in their own right. Occasionally, they can be cited in an article about the topic that they address; if the author is notable, then mentioning their thesis is a standard part of a biography. But a PhD thesis is not going to be an article-worthy book in itself, outside of exceptional circumstances that do not apply here, and this holds even more strongly for master's theses. XOR'easter (talk) 17:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki. The fact that these articles do not meet the present notability guidelines of the English Wikipedia, of course, precludes them from existing here -- but it's really hard to morally justify feeding things into the shredder that clearly took as much time and effort (and produced an outcome so well-written and succinct) as these did. jp×g 🗯️ 17:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see much evidence of effort having gone into these pages at all. One of them is three lists of bullet points, including uninformative glurge like "The study provided valuable insights" and vague speculation about how these "research insights" could somehow help develop new medicines. The other is more of the same ("several practical applications across diverse fields", "seamlessly integrate into academic courses and training programs"). Honestly, I wonder if these pages came straight out of an "AI". XOR'easter (talk) 18:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, let me take a look at the actual dissertation PDF then. jp×g 🗯️ 18:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as a hoax (WP:G3).

The introduction section of the PDF says explicitly that the thesis being tested was to attempt to replace sulfur with selenium in biotin in order to better understand the extent to which selenium could substitute for sulfur in metabolic pathways. This is mentioned nowhere in the article, which only talks about analyzing biotin itself.

Most concerning are the methods of the dissertation as described in the article. It mentions using chromatography and mass spectrometry, which I feel like at least implies GC-MS, but certainly and necessarily entails MS. Well, the dissertation has paper chromatography and no mass spectrometry at all. The only analytical instruments mentioned whatsoever in the dissertation are a gamma scintillation spectrometer, a radiochromatogram scammer, ion exchange columns for paper chromatography, bioautograms, and weighing equipment (not specified).

Based on the outright fabrication of major details of the dissertation, the vapidity of the conclusions drawn therefrom, and the rather recognizable bullet-point format of GPT output, this article is a straightforward WP:G3 speedy-deletable hoax. Perhaps an even more pernicious thing, hitherto undifferentiated by the speedy deletion criteria, but I will nonetheless do so myself: a "slophoax". jp×g 🗯️ 18:39, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the record I will note here that mass spectrometry is an extremely expensive and high-precision analytical technique -- it is absolutely inconceivable that it could be carried out in the course of some research and then not commented on once in a paper published from that research. The only remotely plausible explanation, when combined with the slop formatting and the other questionable claims made in the article, is that it was falsified. jp×g 🗯️ 18:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the other article, allegedly based on this:

The enzyme was expressed in Escherichia coli, purified using affinity chromatography, and crystallized for structural analysis.

No it wasn't: all of the Cpase was obtained from a gene in B. stearothermophilus inserted into (and expressed by) P. pastoris. There's no way you could confuse this with E. coli. The paper does not mention E. coli. The only way you could possibly write this sentence is if you were making stuff up and hadn't read the paper.

The part about affinity chromatography is also false, per p33 of the paper: "Thus affinity chromatography did not appear to hold much promise".

The entire "applications" section is nonsense: "Structural Analysis Techniques: The methodologies utilized in the dissertation, such as X-ray crystallography and molecular modeling, serve as essential points of reference for researchers engaged in similar structural investigations of other proteins and enzymes." None of this means anything. "The methodologies utilized" here refer to -- I mean, computers were utilized in the dissertation too, that doesn't mean Wikipedia is an "application" of it. The methodologies and discoveries outlined in Frost's dissertation can seamlessly integrate into academic courses and training programs within biochemistry, microbiology, and structural biology -- what???

This article, too, is a slophoax, and needs to be speedily deleted as such. jp×g 🗯️ 19:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chesterfield County Government Complex

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Utter failure of the WP:GNG with a complete lack of WP:SIGCOV. PROD was removed with no rationale. Let'srun (talk) 13:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Wallis-Brown

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Article makes no claim to notability. Career section reads like a CV - moving from position to position - but does not outline any accomplishments in any of the roles, notable or otherwise. No significant coverage - the references are largely mentions in passing/regurgitated press releases. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify. The article has just been undeleted at the request of Ofalk88 (see WP:TH#page about Michael Wallis-Brown is deleted) Given the content of the original nomination, I doubt if they can show notability, but we should give them a chance to find sources. --ColinFine (talk) 13:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just querying how that would work? Given that Ofalk88 has a conflict of interest, they should not edit the article themselves; certainly not to the extent of adding content that would presumably signify notability. Given the lack of sources found at the previous AfD or my own WP:BEFORE, I can't see anyone else adding much, either. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no reason a declared paid editor with a declared CoI should not edit a draft. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, this is one of the purposes of AfC. -- asilvering (talk) 19:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or draftify. The current version doesn't indicate what his claim to notability is. Maproom (talk) 16:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Not really any point in draftifying, particularly not at the request of a conflicted editor. I did a thorough WP:BEFORE search during New Page Review which resulted in the first AfD, and I found nothing to qualify this WP:MILL business executive for WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. I also reviewed all sources in this WP:REFBOMB and found no WP:SIGCOV in any of them; all coverage is WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ashley Harder

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By longstanding consensus, a state beauty title (in this case Miss New Jersey) isn't notable in itself. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Heraldry of the World

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I don't want to see this gone as I have found it a very useful site but I can't see how this passes WP:NWEB/WP:GNG. The references currently in the article are all primary/unreliable, and my WP:BEFORE didn't turn up anything (however the genericness of the name makes it difficult) The mentions that do turn up in academic papers and books are simple references/attributions, which in no way pass the WP:SIGCOV bar. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 12:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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W. David Marx

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Poorly referenced article that's mostly based on the subject's Spotify account and fails notability and it's also promotional Blanes tree (talk) 12:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, If you were to look into the references, they are not his Spotify account. They are reputable fashion broadcasts which have interviewed him. There is a big difference.

Secondly, as for Notability, the Wikipedia article reads: ""Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not considered independent." Journalism in the form of podcasts, to my understanding, do not fall under this.

Lastly, I will make an effort to add more reviews of his books to provide more scope as to the census on his work; does that suffice to make it less promotional? Theobrad (talk) 12:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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comment Owen× if you need help understanding notability and WP:NOT please seek it at the Treehouse.Blanes tree (talk) 12:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I beg your pardon? Owen× ☎ 12:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We are gathered here today at this deletion discussion to discuss whether W.David Marx meets WP:NBIO. Please stay on-topic.Blanes tree (talk) 17:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And you find that me adding this AfD to relevant deletion sorting categories was off-topic? Are you trying to be funny, or just having trouble figuring out who said what here? If you need help deciphering a project Talk page, please check out WP:TALK. Owen× ☎ 17:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Harder (actor)

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Unnotable actor with very sparse, minor credits. Fails WP:NACTOR Clarityfiend (talk) 11:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. He never had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. All his roles were minor roles. — YoungForever^(talk) 14:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign non-political endorsements

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Articles for deletion/List of Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign non-political endorsements (2nd nomination)

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Sub- and sub-sub-pages of List of Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign political endorsements, which was tied up with the 2017 deletion discussion. These pages stand out among Presidential candidate endorsement articles as excessively forked, hugely reliant on WP:SOCIALMEDIA sources (WP:PSTS) and thus not establishing notability (WP:TRIVIA). I am also nominating the following related pages:

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Nadel vanishing theorem

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Needs more of a review for notability. UtherSRG (talk) 11:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep. I don’t think a rationale for the deletion is given (that the review is needed is reasonable but is not a reason). As for the notability, the references and further reading given in the article seem enough (further reading can still be used to establish the notability if not to justify statements in the article). Needless to say, you can also find additional refs by just Googling. —- Taku (talk) 11:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. MathSciNet has plenty of hits for "Nadel" "vanishing theorem" including seven with both phrases in their titles. I think there is a clear case for WP:GNG notability. Also, we don't take articles to AfD to ask others to review their notability; we take them to AfD when we have reason to believe they are non-notable. UtherSRG, what is that reason? The article had plenty of relevant looking sources at nomination time. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:39, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep No valid deletion rationale given, and a literature search finds plenty of sources on the topic, so it's hard to see why a deletion debate is the proper way to discuss what to do about it. To be clear, it does need work, since it combines the typical obscurity of an advanced-math stub with an awkwardness that feels like the prose was translated from another language. (For example, Nadel vanishing theorem for analytic. For analytic what?) But deletion is not prose cleanup. XOR'easter (talk) 17:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per all above. jp×g 🗯️ 17:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adeka

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not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for companies and organizations. RodrigoIPacce (talk) 10:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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TPPD

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A draft that has not been updated for a long time. Not meet notability RodrigoIPacce (talk) 10:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DYDW

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Fails WP:GNG, requires significant coverage (not mentions in passing or inclusion in lists/directories) in multiple independent secondary sources. Dan arndt (talk) 10:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kristal Kola

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Weak article without a proper number of references RodrigoIPacce (talk) 10:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Buffyverse guidebooks

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The guidebooks themselves are not notable by any GNG measure. Buffyverse and buffy itself, yes, but not these guidebooks. Iljhgtn (talk) 10:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kristal Kola

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Lack of citation RodrigoIPacce (talk) 10:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Turkish article only has primary sources. Since I said in 2022 that it was not notable neither @Jfire: nor @HelpingWorld: have added any cites to the article to show otherwise. Chidgk1 (talk) 11:50, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of schools in Aligarh

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Fails WP:NLIST. Other than two university entries, and one school, it is not a relevant list. WP:NOTDIR applies too with no standalone relevance of the list. Can be alternatively merged to Aligarh parent article's education section. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hugo Rune

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Unreferenced WP:FANCRUFT --wooden superman 09:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as unreferenced original research. See WP:NOR. Vorann Gencov (talk) 11:03, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: lacks verifiable and significant coverage from reliable, independent sources, failing to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. --Loewstisch (talk) 11:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2002 Pajala municipal election

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I don't know how this managed to survive the last AFD, but after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2002 Danderyd municipal election its days should be numbered. A page on this municipal election is not encyclopedic material. Whether the municipality has 2,000, 4,000 og 6,000 inhabitants doesn't matter, nor does the physical size of Pajala. The page violates WP:NOT because Wikipedia is not a statistical database of every local election around the world. The election summary with a couple of WP:ROUTINE sources, which was added during the last discussion, doesn't change that fact. Geschichte (talk) 09:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete doesn't seem to fulfil WP:EVENTCRIT. Vorann Gencov (talk) 11:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bosphorus Airways

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Looked through Turkish media and not publicly available archives but I didn’t find any sufficient sources for indicating the airways’ notability. Dirubii Olchoglu (talk) 08:44, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Interesting thing that is missing from the article and something that I did not expect to see at all today is that this tiny airline apparently went to the European Court of Human Rights with the state of Ireland? It has its own article on here, and on a quick glance seems to satisfy notability. Should this AfD result in delete, some content can be merged into that article for some background information. Styyx (talk) 11:50, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manorathangal

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References are brief mentions, WP:NEWSORGINDIA, or otherwise unreliable. Draftified previously but disputed as well as notability tag disputed. Would suggest a redirect to ZEE5. CNMall41 (talk) 19:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a landmark project in Indian cinema. It's bizarre that someone finds it irrelevant. Would you suggest that The Irishman produced by Netflix should simply redirect to Netflix? Filmy World (talk) 15:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many reliable citations are added there is no need of deletion of merging Zyzwvw (talk) 15:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: bylined articles in Variety, The Hindu and Onmanorama, for example, seem to show this is notable. A redirect is indeed warranted anyway, so very opposed to deletion. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Draftify Put it back to draft and saltify the title, no more moving to-and-forth. Let an administrator review it next time. Gan Favourite (talk) 06:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why? If this is notable, why draftify and block creation, on top of that, if we can agree it's notable here? no more moving to-and-forth? I agree: leave it in the Main. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kütahya Porselen

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Not meeting GNG per Ncorp/Norg. I did WP Before but it did not help me much. Dirubii Olchoglu (talk) 08:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, fails all known WP:GNG with wide deficits. Ednabrenze (talk) 09:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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F*** Marry Kill

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Lacking significant coverage per WP:NFP BOVINEBOY2008 08:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, found no reviews or coverage except for press releases akin to the one already found in the article. Possible redirect to Fuck, marry, kill. Geschichte (talk) 09:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Fuck, marry, kill, creating an "In Popular Culture" section. Vorann Gencov (talk) 11:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fenercell

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Notability is not found; there are also no reliable sources Dirubii Olchoglu (talk) 08:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fitwell

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Notability not indicated. Sources are paid or International Business Times (canceled on Wikipedia). Dirubii Olchoglu (talk) 08:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete — I agree with the nominator that the sources in the article are lacking. Webrazzi sources read very much promotional, and there isn't anything satisfying WP:ORGIND in English sources. The Milliyet source (archive link) is just not much about the company. A Google search results in no other significant sources such as other articles or books, no results on DergiPark either. Fails WP:NCORP. Styyx (talk) 12:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete promotional content. Vorann Gencov (talk) 13:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Most of the references seem like paid PR articles failing to satisy WP:INDEPENDENT. Wikilover3509 (talk) 15:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alameda Council

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WP:NORG and WP:ORGIND fail. If a suitable target can be found, it could be re-directed as suggested for WP:BRANCH, although this article certainly does not merit standalone Graywalls (talk) 05:26, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Agree with OP.

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Men's Folio

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May not meet WP:NMAGAZINE and WP:GNG. Unable to find significant coverage of the publication. Article is supported by sole subject's About us page at the time of nomination. Article was dratified and then subsequently moved back to mainspace by the article creator. – robertsky (talk) 05:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ginny Holder

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Non notable actress, Bar Holby City her roles have all been one-bit/minor roles, Cannot find anything in-depth on Google News (all are gossip/mentions), Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG –Davey2010^Talk 18:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep In addition to her recurring role in Holby City, she also made recurring appearances in Death in Paradise (TV series) (this is not cited in the article, but see this source, for instance). Thus, because she has had significant roles in these two series, she satisfies the criteria of WP:ENT. Gödel2200 (talk) 21:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Probably not enough coverage... I find this [5] and a bunch of articles in Hello! about celebrity gossip, but nothing to use for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets WP:NACTOR indeed, with at least 2 significant roles in notable productions, as Gödel2200 explained.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC) Update: at least 3 (see page).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC) Update; 6 (PLEASE see 1st Afd, where other productions and sources are mentioned...and that was closed as a clear and fair Keep)....-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a tough one because while she does have a fair amount of credits, she herself has no significant third-party coverage despite being in the business for three decades, which is evident by her article having no content since the beginning, literally consisting of two sentences and a filmography. She is merely a byproduct in content focusing on Death in Paradise, and "meet the cast"–type articles do not meet SIGCOV. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 08:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added a few things to the page.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Satisfies WP:NACTOR per above. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I disagree with Casualty's statement, which seems to have mixed up GNG and SNG. The subject person has officially credited main roles in the television series Death in Paradise and The Capture, as well as a recurring role in Holby City which earned her a nomination for Female Performance in TV at the Screen Nation Film and Television Awards. This means the subject person has at least three significant roles in notable projects, which clearly fulfills NACTOR#1 and should be kept. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 16:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, as she had recurring roles in multiple shows — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sterencio (talk • contribs) 22:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and improve the article, specifically with regard to her nomination for Female Performance in TV at the Screen Nation Film and Television Awards. Prof.PMarini (talk) 12:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Crocker Cemetery

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Non-notable cemetery, fails WP:GNG, WP:NORG, WP:NGEO. All the sources here are primary source documents or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. (The Sarasota History Alive item is a transcription of a local historical marker that focuses more on the associated church.) The church is arguably notable (and there's a draft at Draft:Crocker Church); any reliably sourced encyclopedic content about the cemetery could be merged there. I would have draftified this page but there's already a draft at Draft:Crocker Cemetery so that's not an option and AfD is the outcome. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:07, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify: In the same spirit as the nominator, I believe this may be better returned to Draft. It may be susceptible to enhancement there to show and prove notability 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ (See below first relisting banner) No sourcing found by anyone which meets our needs. That sourcing in the article is insufficient. Fails WP:GNG. Might find a home merged into an eventual article in Crocker Church, or could be merged into the current Draft:Crocker Church. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Either this page needs to be deleted or the draft where it would get sent needs to be deleted. Different mechanically but the same general outcome. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify by merging the existing article into the existing draft. @Htystudent believed that the article had been submitted through AfC for review which is probably the best thing for it and them as a new editor. I see the potential, I found an article about volunteer efforts for the cemetery in the Sarasota Daily Tribune, and I think the differing names have made it harder but certainly not impossible to find sources. Draftify to an eventual keep, hopefully. Kazamzam (talk) 03:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Delete - both the claims of the article and the topic's overall notability, plus (allegedly) notable facts of the article cannot be verified and are under AfD proceedings. Might be merged into an eventual article on Crocker Church, per Timtrent's suggestion above, but the trifecta of articles by the original author are all insufficiently sourced with reliably citations at present. Kazamzam (talk) 18:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kazamzam @Htystudent The article on the church is very likely notable with a focus on the reliable sources. The cemetery is more loosely sourced and I doubt will pass through AFC, but any encyclopedic content here should be included in the church article. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The cemetery and church have both received notable attention. There have been many articles written about them. If you visit Newsbank or NewspaperArchive you'd see them. However, it does require a subscription. I have cited these articles as sources. I don't really see how that can count against the article if you choose not to purchase the subscription to review them. Although, most public libraries offer these services for free on their public computers. Htystudent (talk) 13:31, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I am unsure of how this article is up for deletion too as I quite literally submitted it for review and it was published, so it’s likely an issue with the reviewer and not me. I don’t understand how this cemetery is “non notable”. It is a historically designated location. It has to go through a strict process to even be historically designated. Htystudent (talk) 22:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Htystudent Please look at the history tab. This has never been through the AFC process. It appears to have been created by you, moved to Draft by another editor and then the (presumed) redirect overwritten by you later. See the logs

Draft:Crocker Cemetery exists. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I can only find confirmation of burials there, which is what a cemetery does. Nothing notable about this place, I don't see that it's been listed on the NRHP or local historical register. Oaktree b (talk) 23:07, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You have done poor research and have not even bothered to look at the sources. If you couldn't find it why do you think an average person would be able to? That's why this page needs to exist.

St. John's/Crocker Memorial Cemetery | Sarasota History Alive!

This is linked directly in the article as a citation. I suggest you obtain better reading comprehension skills. Htystudent (talk) 13:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(the link contains an image, that I do not own, of the historical marker.) You could have even looked up the county's historic register page Sarasota County Historical Markers (arcgis.com) and found it. It's listed under Peter Crocker (since he founded the cemetery) but discusses the cemetery as well. Htystudent (talk) 13:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Htystudent, please be WP:CIVIL. The Sarasota History Alive page lists the text of a historical marker. Under WP:NPLACE, a "buildings . . . may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant in-depth coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability." I think it's fair to say that the ~500 words of a historical marker erected by a local historical society cannot be presumed to constitute "significant in-depth coverage," and that's why we're having this discussion. (Places listed on the National Register are presumed notable; places documented by local historical groups are not and thus editors need to prove their notability using significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable, secondary sources.) @Oaktree b participates in a lot of these debates; I don't agree with his assessment 100% of the time, but he knows how to evaluate sources. Telling him "you have not even bothered to look at the sources" or to "obtain better reading comprehension skills" is not an appropriate way to engage here. @Timtrent is trying to help your work pass muster. I've offered my thoughts above about combining the cemetery content with the church. Your approach today is not a good way to engage with the broader community of volunteers who are working on this encyclopedia. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When they say " I don't see that it's been listed on the NRHP or local historical register." It is clear that they have not viewed the sources, as the Sarasota History Alive page is the first source listed in the article. Not sure how you can, in good faith, opt for deletion without viewing the sources when the deletion discussion is about the sources. The Sarasota History Alive page is also not just a text. It has a photo, as I mentioned, of the physical historical marker. Htystudent (talk) 13:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, being listed on a local register has no bearing on notability; you need to have WP:SIGCOV in multiple secondary, independent, reliable sources and that's what's still missing from this conversation. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN ST. JOHN'S MEMORIAL CEMETERY IS A LITTLE-KNOWN BURIAL GROUND THAT, Sarasota Herald-Tribune (FL), October 4, 1998, p1D (newsbank.com)

1560-word article solely about the cemetery (yes, it's the same cemetery. The name was changed to St. John's Cemetery, but it's still referred to as Crocker Cemtery), will be put in as a citation momentarily.

There were also various articles published in the pelican press, now the siesta key observer, but there is no way to view those since they are not in the county library's archive. Not sure if you would consider those since you cannot view them. Htystudent (talk) 14:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And the NRHP will usually have a 20 page history of the building, which really helps notability. This is a long way form that. Oaktree b (talk) 23:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you looked at the page I linked, you'd see that it is not NRHP. It is locally registered, which is still notable since the processes are very similar. Htystudent (talk) 12:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also wanted to enlighten you to the fact that the Sarasota Historical Society does not have any authority to erect historical markers. Historic Designation can only be granted by the city, county, or federal level (which is a strict process). The Sarasota Historical Society is simply a volunteer organization. Htystudent (talk) 15:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, the sources all appear to be paper-based (in the article at present), so I can't look at them. Oaktree b (talk) 00:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it a part of the notability guidelines that paper sources are not allowed to be used? Htystudent (talk) 17:06, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, they are not all paper based. Like I said, the first source is literally a link. Htystudent (talk) 17:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Htystudent - what @Oaktree b is correctly pointing out is that paper-based sources cannot be verified by other editors which largely defeats the purpose of a source - that it can be used to verify the material it claims to source. If I say I have a paper copy of the Bible that states that Jesus was 7 feet tall and an amazing point guard, but there's no other record of it, it's hardly usable as a source for the purposes of Wikipedia. Many archives have digital material to compliment the paper source and this can be linked to or at least requested to be shared by online readers. Do you see the difference here?

Also, I'm not sure about the wisdom of pointing out (sorry, "enlightening" us) that the Sarasota Historical Society is a volunteer organization with no authority to erect historical markers or give a historic designation. That makes the third-party notability claim more dubious imho. Kazamzam (talk) 17:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was to bolster the verity of the historical marker, which they were trying to say had no significance. Htystudent (talk) 17:26, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which they obviously did not know historical markers, at least in Sarasota County, can only be erected by a government organization after they have gone through the strict historic designation process. Htystudent (talk) 17:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how people who do not know much about the subject have final say, especially when I possess a master's level of education (Which is why I'm unsure why I just can't be taken at my word- at my sources really- for the print articles). Maybe my education is too formal, and I apologize for that, but it makes zero sense to me how the only qualification to become an editor on wikipedia is length of time. There is some knowledge of local government and history required to determine the verity and significance of some of these things. Htystudent (talk) 17:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Htystudent - it seems you are confused as to how Wikipedia works. 'Taking someone at their word' is the polar opposite of the notability and verification guidelines for citations. Your credentials, while pertinent to the topic, have no standing here. If it makes "zero sense" to you how Wikipedia policies work, you need to familiarize yourself with those policies that are going to determine the outcome of this AfD and others, rather than stressing the magnanimity of your credentials and that we should all just take your word about multiple, unseen paper sources because of your education. Your belittling tone and condescension towards other editors is not doing you any favours. Kazamzam (talk) 18:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was not referring to wikipedia policies when I used the phrase "zero sense". It was in regard to the qualifications required to become an admin. I just think an admin should be required to have advanced education, so they are more knowledgeable, not just about wikis policies but subjects in general. Htystudent (talk) 12:36, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Htystudent - no one in this discussion is an administrator. Kazamzam (talk) 14:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Since I'm familiar with finding out information about historical items in Sarasota County, I'll provide some sources I found that might give insight:
[6] Sarasota Herald Tribune has a blurb from their "Slice of Sarasota" but it looks to just restate what the historical marker states (and Sarasota History Alive page)

[7] I noticed when searching, there used to be a church on the site that was deemed historically significant by Sarasota (never made it to NHRP) - it was moved in 2006; there's an active draft of this article - this makes me wonder if the cemetery should be merged with the church (or in the opposite way as the cemetery would include a church by definition) - a separate discussion

[8] Article about the church needing repairs, again the Sarasota History Alive page is referenced

[9] Church is mentioned in passing

I want to say there's a possibility, but it might require books specific to the history of the area. For the church and cemetery, you would need to look at Manatee County as it existed before Sarasota County was created. The timing would also be when Sarasota was a town. There's also the possibility of merging with what I explained above. – The Grid (talk) 14:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed Peter Crocker is also an active AfD and will be dependent on this AfD discussion. – The Grid (talk) 14:26, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. There is existing information, through the (relatively recent) restoration of the cemetery. Bill Whetzel, cemetery coordinator, made a big splash between 1998 and 2004 when the cemetery was facing issues (discussed in the issues section of this article) and submitted various press releases to the Pelican Press to make the story public. However, I only have the print copies of these articles. I cannot find them online. Htystudent (talk) 14:31, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the print copies are referenceable, please use the correct citation template and use them. We may make limited quotations from them using the quote parameter. Note, please that we still require them to be WP:RS and require that they have significant coverage, and are independent of the cemetery. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: This article has been updated with five additional sources that comply with WP:GNG, now making it appropriate for publishing. Htystudent (talk) 15:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I reviewed the additional sources the creator added to the article, and I'm afraid they don't pass the test. Here's my analysis
Sarasota History Alive: A transcription of a historical marker that mostly focuses on the church and has one paragraph on the cemetery - not WP:SIGCOV.

Herald Tribune on church restoration: This is entirely about the church and only mentions the cemetery in a single sentence - not SIGCOV.

Your Observer 1 and 2. This is the same story at two different links. Four paragraphs amid a discussion of other cemeteries - not the in-depth SIGCOV we need.

Herald Tribune, "Slice of Sarasota". This is a nice piece about the cemetery written as a human interest story. (Literally: "'Slice of Sarasota' is an occasional glimpse of the fascinating life that goes on quietly every day around us, waiting for us to stop and pay attention.") According to our policies at WP:NEWSORG, "Human interest reporting is generally not as reliable as news reporting, and may not be subject to the same rigorous standards of fact-checking and accuracy."

Herald Tribune, "Gone but Not Forgotten". This I could count as WP:SIGCOV in a reliable, secondary, independent source.

However, we need multiple sources and I don't see another one that passes the test for me. That's why I've urged including this material with the church article, but as a standalone article my view remains "delete." Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added them to note but agreeing to your assessment as I said the same thing above. I think extensive sources exist but it might involve some extensive research beyond this AfD duration. – The Grid (talk) 13:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, if I add citations to the 2 print articles of the Pelican Press would you consider those? They are only available in print. Htystudent (talk) 12:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Htystudent As you might expect, this depends whether they are significant coverage, independent of the cemetery, and are in reliable sources. No-one will give you a verdict sight unseen. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So how would I share? I don't think I can upload images here and even if I could I'm sure there would be an issue with copyright. Htystudent (talk) 17:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Check the age against copyright laws in you jurisdiction. Or simply take the risk, make sparing use of the quote parameter in the cite template. I have said this before. ^^^^^^^ Up there 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm impressed by the lengths some editors have gone to to find sources to support this article, this is not typical for most AFD discussions I work on. Several participants have mentioned a potential Merge with the church article but have not "voted" for this result so I just wanted to float the idea now that if this is an outcome you support, state this directly in this discussion and the AFD concerning the church. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:35, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz I went ahead and merged encyclopedic content into Draft:Crocker Church. I'm not sure we can !vote for a merge since that would involve a cross-namespace redirect until the draft article clears AFC, though, can we? Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:00, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your attempt to contribute but there is some inaccurate and missing information in there (as my histories attempt to be as whole as possible). Since I have direct access to the cemetery records ( I know, not wiki approved sources, but still factual nonetheless), everything I put in my original article is true and accurate. Why was the content here not copy and pasted into a section titled “cemetery”? I can do it myself if it has something to do with plagiarism. Htystudent (talk) 03:20, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to believe that local tax disputes and leases to Boston Market and lists of non-notable trustees are something other than trivial content that does not belong in an encyclopedia. The point is not to include every detail that was noted in the cemetery records you have access to. “As whole as possible” is NOT the goal of Wikipedia. I’ve been trying to help rescue the truly encyclopedic content from your contributions and you appear uninterested in accepting that help, so I do not think it will be productive to engage further here. My !vote remains delete. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing as you did not even spell the name of the road it is located on correctly, I'm not sure if your rescue attempt is very helpful (to me or Wikipedia readers). Like I said, thank you for your attempt but since I am the one most versed in the methods of historical writing and the subject, I think it's best for me to continue the editing on Crocker Church. Htystudent (talk) 14:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Following a request from an editor for clarity, I can state that a Merge to Draft:Crocker Church is a pragmatic outcome which I support. I am, however, averse to the creating editor's desire for us to leave it to me (I paraphase their comments) and remind them of WP:OWN - Drafts are for all to edit. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Technically this would need to be closed as a Soft Delete in order to achieve that, avoiding cross namespace redirection~~ 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This has been overtaken by events. I accepted Crocker Church just now, thus it becomes a valid Merge and Redirect target. I have left a comment prior to acceptance on Talk:Crocker Church regarding that acceptance, and left it in the NPP review queue. In all other respects I view this discussion and that acceptance to be separate matters. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and Redirect to Crocker Church — KylieTastic (talk) 12:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Crocker Church per my previous comments. – The Grid (talk) 13:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Crocker Church (relevant content has already been merged, and if editors want to add more that discussion can happen there). Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wright Karts

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Delete Does not meet WP:GNG. The only reference link is their company website. The company seems to have supported many famous race drivers, but as per WP:ORGDEPTH, most of the articles speak about the racers and there is no significant coverage on the company itself. Wikilover3509 (talk) 6:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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Delete – Exceedingly poor quality article. This could easily have been G11ed. I see no indication of significant coverage and no real claim of notability. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 11:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No significant coverage in independent, reliable sources to prove notability. Prof.PMarini (talk) 13:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Poorly sourced article, and I couldn't find any third party sources reporting on it at all. BMB YT 500000 (talk) 13:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

White Crane Films

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Delete Does not meet WP:GNG. One of the reference links is their company website. The other 2 reference links don’t work. The founders seem to be notable, but as per WP:ORGDEPTH, most of the search results throw up articles which speak about the founders, but there is no significant coverage on the company. Wikilover3509 (talk) 6:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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Kindergarden (demoparty)

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. There is a Digi.no article, but it consists of telling what one of the organizers said. Other than that, I was only able to find mentions and short descriptions, such as "The two pure demo parties in Norway are Solskogen, which is organised in July every year, and Kindergarden, which is held in November. Kindergarden can boast that it is the world's oldest demo party that is still organised."

A possible alternative to deletion is a redirect to Demoscene#List of demoparties. toweli (talk) 14:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect: All the sources are self-published or that Digi.no article which is pretty much just an event announcement. Could not find anything on google for it either. Probably sufficient to put "Amiga-focused demoparty which began in a kindergarden in YEAR and ended in YEAR, reaching 200 attendees in YEAR". Mrfoogles (talk) 15:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i.e. just write what is possible based off those sources and maybe their website Mrfoogles (talk) 15:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Further on Tomorrow

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I couldn't find sources to add confirming it meets WP:NALBUM / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 16:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Marc Douglas Berardo: I also found no additional coverage. In fact, I found nothing that suggests that Bernardo himself is notable, and I launched a separate AfD for his page. If that page is kept, this should be redirected there; if that page is deleted then the redirect will be speedied. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Seyed Mohammad Mousavi Noor

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG. DJ InstaMalik (talk) 04:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a cinematographer and he has filmed many movies, and for the person who created the article, he must not have had much information, and according to the template at the end of the article, please help expand this article, but you came to delete the template. You stated that this is far from the rules of Wikipedia. 204.18.50.110 (talk) 07:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jovanna Huguet

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Fails WP:NACTOR. No evidence of multiple significant roles. Her TV career is made up of small appearances. LibStar (talk) 04:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2009 Lancaster, Pennsylvania, mayoral election

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Same as usual mayoral election results. Easily fails WP:NEVENT, Lancaster only has a population of ~60,000. Last mayoral election I will be doing for a while, as I don't want to overbear everything with more articles. Allentown will be next. -1ctinus📝🗨 01:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Fails WP:NEVENT. Sal2100 (talk) 14:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: due to its failure to meet the standards set by WP:NEVENT. The city in question is small, with less than 60,000 souls. Thus, we need to find sources beyond routine reports before we even start writing. This election, lacking concrete, lasting effects on the people living in the city, and receiving little media attention, likely does not need its own article.--AstridMitch (talk) 17:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Shreveport mayoral election

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More electioncruft articles, except all of these are in a town that is not even in the top 100 largest towns in the United States. Not notable for the usual reasons, Wikipedia is a political database. Fails the general notability guideline, as all sources are WP:MILL in local news stations or papers. Additionally, no coverage is sustaining, failing WP:NEVENT. I am nominating the following articles as well:

2022 Shreveport mayoral election
2018 Shreveport mayoral election
2014 Shreveport mayoral election
2010 Shreveport mayoral election
2006 Shreveport mayoral election
2002 Shreveport mayoral election
1998 Shreveport mayoral election
1994 Shreveport mayoral election
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Old Paths Radio Network

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Unable to find the requisite in depth coverage for this subject to meet the WP:NCORP guideline. The sources currently in the article mostly are just covering routine business transactions of individual stations, and a search didn't reveal with much better. Let'srun (talk) 00:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of radio stations in North Carolina, the only reasonable redirect target. In a post-2021 environment, this page no longer makes sense. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MagicTracer

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This piece of paid software does not meet the WP:GNG as it lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. Does not meet WP:NSOFT either, although that is just an essay. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 01:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete My search has led me to finding only download links, so subject fails WP:SIGCOV Vorann Gencov (talk) 22:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom. Fails GNG. Probably would've marked this for A7 if it wasn't so old. C F A 💬 01:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Cnet and the usual download links are all that pop up. Non-notable software, seems to no longer bu supported, so we likely won't find any new reviews or the like. Oaktree b (talk) 01:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Burlington mayoral election

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More electioncruft articles, except all of these are in a town of less than 50,000 people, or 870th in the country. Not notable for the usual reasons, Wikipedia is NOT a political database. Fails the general notability guideline, as all sources are WP:MILL in local news stations or papers. Additionally, no coverage is sustaining, failing WP:NEVENT. I am Nominating the following articles as well:

2006 Burlington mayoral election
2012 Burlington mayoral election
2015 Burlington mayoral election
2018 Burlington mayoral election
2021 Burlington mayoral election
Keep as Burlington is the largest city in Vermont and its mayoralty has served as the stepping stone for many politicians in the state's history. Its elections are clearly notable. Jon698 (talk) 00:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also these elections did have sustained coverage. It occurred for over a year as the elections occurred. There is an obvious reason why nobody talks about an election after it happens. I don't see too many recent news stories about the 2018 Tennessee gubernatorial election. Jon698 (talk) 01:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which election had sustained coverage? For example, 2012 only had a single source. I did not include 2009 because it looked like it had some sustained coverage. WP:ITSNOTABLE is not an argument unfortunately. If you want to compromise, I would be fine with merging these articles. -1ctinus📝🗨 01:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These articles just need some work. They shouldn't be deleted just because somebody hasn't gotten around to expanding them yet. I could drop my work on Nazi films right now and do it if that would change your opinion. Jon698 (talk) 01:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
👍, if significant, lasting coverage can be found I would certainly withdraw the nomination. -1ctinus📝🗨 01:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will start work once I finish the book I'm currently reading. I only have around 60 pages left to read. Jon698 (talk) 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will not be able to start work on these articles at the moment due to a problem with Wikipedia Library's access to Newspapers.com. Jon698 (talk) 18:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Yeah, of course the sources are ROTM coverage. Run-of-the-mill means coverage that is expected as part of a news outlet's regular coverage of events in its area, so naturally 95% of articles about local elections are going to fall under this category. There is plenty of coverage cited on this page, so I don't see the argument for deletion. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 05:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the problem is that articles need significant, independent, lasting coverage to be notable, and volume does not matter. Otherwise, literally everything that happens in the news would be notable. -1ctinus📝🗨 11:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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