Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Yesterday

Recent AfDs:    Today    Yesterday      August 1 (Thu)      July 31 (Wed)      July 30 (Tue)     More... Media   Organisations   Biography   Society   Web   Games   Science   Arts   Places   Indiscern.  Not-Sorted

Purge server cache

Nicolaus von Braun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This is a weird one. This guy was quartermaster of the garrison regiment of Malmo, Sweden in the early 1700s. Which seems to have been the town guard. Obviously in modern terms being a department chief in a city's police department wouldn't warrant a Wikipedia article by itself, but does it historically? I don't honestly know. The impetus for the Wikipedia article is a 30-page article in a local history yearbook, the citation for which I've cleaned up with a URL which I invite commenters to look at, especially if you speak Swedish. I doubt there are any other internet-accessible sources.

The source material is written in an academic style with citations, but many seem to be general ones for historical context, rather than ones that actually mention von Braun. He seems to only be documented in primary sources found by the chapter's writers, which in theory is fine. Their book chapter is a secondary source which Wikipedia can cite. It is likely to be the only valid source for Wikipedia on von Braun, though. Is that enough? Again, I don't honestly know. This is an AFD where I'm asking what you all think, rather than saying we definitely need to delete the article.

Reading the source through auto-translation it seems to be much more speculative than the Wikipedia article implies, with much of the information about von Braun being guesses and suppositions. It does seem like a bit of hyper-local history. In Wikipedia terms, it will probably be difficult to create meaningful inbound links (I found this article trying to create links to old orphan articles). And it's hard to imagine who's going to be getting useful information from a vague article about a city guard quartermaster from 300 years ago. I know you could make the "it's not useful..." argument for lots of Wikipedia articles, and Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia so it's fine to have articles on very obscure things, but in this case, I mean... who actually is needing this vague information about a city guard quartermaster who didn't do anything notable?

The article was created by a user who was long ago banned, with the central issue seeming to be stretching sources way too far to write content on hyper-local topics... which sounds exactly like what might be going on here right? Here2rewrite (talk) 22:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: I ran the name through Project Runeberg [1] and nothing pops up. If there's no biography there, I'm going to say this person isn't notable. Oaktree b (talk) 23:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chorzew Siemkowice railway station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

It exists, but this railway stop doesn't meet WP:N. Boleyn (talk) 22:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep Polish wiki has two articles that seem to be about the place [2], [3]. It's talked about here [4] and here [5]. Could probably bring enough info together to make a basic article... They seem to be wanting to bring trains back to the line (or have done so already) in 2024, based on the bits I could translate. Oaktree b (talk) 23:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ASD Casoli Calcio (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Doesn't meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG Boleyn (talk) 22:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per WP:SIGCOV, the sources I talking about the team does not seems to he WP:RS. Correct me if I'm wrong though Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 00:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NASCAR Nation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

\this doesn't appear to meet WP:N. Boleyn (talk) 22:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: The phrase is still used, but there is nothing for this TV show I could find. This article has no sources, not helping matters... Well, last AfD in 2005 was a keep, and the show got cancelled shortly thereafter, so that was a bad call.... Oaktree b (talk) 23:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baloch yakjehti committee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Questionable notability per WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Note that this appears to be a rewrite of a declined draft about the same organization by the same author: Draft:Baloch Yakjehti Committee (BYC). The same issues regarding formal tone appropriate for an encyclopedia noted as problematic in the declined draft seem to afflict this version. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 22:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, and Pakistan. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 23:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: per NORG, though the article should be rewritten. Significant coverage in this Asian News International article, this Dawn article, this Times of India article, this The Wire article, etc. C F A 💬 23:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Funny how they left "Sure, here’s how you can add a zone category list to your infobox:" in while copying from ChatGPT. C F A 💬 23:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 23:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge with Mahrang Baloch: or Baloch Long March. This organization itself may not satisfy SIGCOV — Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:07, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment: The Baloch Long March was a past and single event, so it cannot represent the whole BYC. See my comment and the VoA and Al Jazeera sources as justification below. Balochpal (talk) 14:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete or Merge: Fails WP:GNG as many sources listed are from unreliable news sites (some of which I've removed) and also lacks WP:SIGCOV. Would also support content worth merging to Baloch Long March Axedd (talk) 22:09, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. It does meet GNG; the sources just aren't in the article.

Source assessment table: prepared by User:CFA
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://www.dawn.com/news/1845830/baloch-yakjehti-committee-postpones-sit-in-after-agreement-with-govt		Listed on WP:NPPSG as reliable	About the organization	✔ Yes
https://theprint.in/world/pakistan-baloch-yakjehti-committee-establishes-central-organising-body-mahrang-baloch-chosen-central-organiser/2131286/		Listed on WP:NPPSG as reliable	About the organization	✔ Yes
https://m.thewire.in/article/south-asia/a-baloch-national-gathering-against-enforced-disappearances-and-human-rights-abuses/amp		Listed on WP:NPPSG as generally reliable	About the organization	✔ Yes
https://www.geo.tv/latest/556473-baloch-yakjehti-committee-sit-in-enters-third-day		~ Listed on WP:NPPSG as "leaning towards reliable"	About the organization	~ Partial
https://www.newsx.com/world/baloch-yakjehti-committee-to-run-endbalochgenocide-campaign-against-pakistan-atrocities/		Not listed anywhere, but no reason to assume it's not reliable	About the organization	✔ Yes
https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/byc-urges-rights-body-to-intervene-amid-escalating-abuses-in-balochistan20240724190635		~ No consensus on reliability	About the organization	~ Partial
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/baloch-yakjehti-committee-criticises-pakistan-for-atrocities-against-people-of-balochistan/articleshow/111632036.cms		~ No consensus on reliability	About the organization	~ Partial
https://www.lokmattimes.com/international/baloch-yakjehti-committee-steps-up-efforts-for-national-gathering/		Not listed anywhere, but no reason to assume it's not reliable	About the organization	✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

That is a source assessment based on significant coverage by major news outlets. Even if we discount the non-listed or no-consensus sources, there are still three reliable sources that offer significant coverage. They just need to be added to the article when it is rewritten. C F A 💬 23:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources like ANI and Times of India are not reliable for the topic. WP:RSPANI Look here for further information. Any India related news site is unreliable when it comes to political topics about Pakistan as the govt has vested interest involved. Other sources do exist but they fail to demonstrate WP:SIGCOV as of now. Axedd (talk) 00:26, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, which is why I marked them as "No consensus" on the chart above. There are still at least 3 reliable, independent sources that offer significant coverage of the organization, which shows that it meets WP:NORG. We can't say something fails GNG just because other unreliable sources happen to have also covered the topic. C F A 💬 00:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per user:CFA. Plus, also check other sources like VoA, Al Jazeera, ABC News, etc as they also mention the BYC. Additionally, please fix the capitalization in the article title (with B, Y and C in capital letters).Balochpal (talk) 19:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC) — Balochpal (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Hello user:CFA. Can you add the above recent sources, plus Amnesty International, Arab News and The Diplomat, to your table as well? They need to be added to the article also. Balochpal (talk) 16:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Per nom as the article fails WP:GNG and is already covered in the Baloch Long March. Ainty Painty (talk) 10:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question: as per the Voice of America, a reliable and authentic source, the Baloch Long March was a past event, not a present event, that happened months ago. (The Al Jazeera news doesn't event mention the long march when discussing the BYC). How would you use it to cover the broader topic of the whole BYC? VoA: Late last year, BYC led a 1,600-kilometer march to Islamabad with families awaiting the return of their loved ones gone missing in the fight between the state and Baloch separatists. Protesters faced severe police action as they tried to enter the capital. Demonstrators, braving the cold for days, eventually left after authorities warned of an imminent security threat. Balochpal (talk) 14:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Educational Basketball (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Disputed draftification, whcih leaves AfD as the route for articles with insufficient referencing and failing WP:GNG. T 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Basketball, Africa, and Nigeria. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete with no opposition to draftify, but my BEFORE doesn't show any promise this passes NCORP as I did't find any sources about the organization that satisfied all three of independent, reliable and SIGCOV. Though, happy to be proven wrong by a demonstration of WP:THREE, as always. Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony J. Resta discography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

The title of the article is "Anthony J. Resta discography, however very little of it is actually about anything Resta recorded himself. Instead it's a WP:COATRACK of everything he's ever been involved with in some manner, however minor the connection. I've looked this over for 40 minutes trying to think of what I could remove and keep but it's so much that I am failing at it. This discography article is almost all puffery and should be WP:TNTed and redone from scratch in an appropriate manner. Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 21:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:27, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Lists. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:28, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to the main article which is still too small. Azuredivay (talk) 17:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: So, is Anthony J. Resta the Merge target article that is being considered? Because this article is ten times the size of the target article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Imre Vallyon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I'm nominating this page for deletion again because the initial discussion lacked sufficient engagement and the sources provided were inadequate in both quality and quantity. There's a notable absence of substantial coverage of Imre Vallyon, his work, or his organisation in multiple reliable secondary sources. Meeting notability criteria typically requires presenting at least three such sources. The article from Stuff, while primarily focused on his legal issues, appears to be the only source that meets these criteria. Without it, the page is mostly information sourced by primary sources and a list of his self published books and ebooks.

In terms of Vallyon's notability as a writer, the two book reviews presented by Oaktree b in the previous discussion are clearly poor sources, as they seem to be paid content from freelance writers on unreliable websites. Additionally, Vallyon does not meet the criteria for notability as a criminal according to Wikipedia guidelines on crime perpetrators, despite the only significant coverage of him focusing on his legal issues. His organisation, FHL, does not seem to meet the notability standards either. Ynsfial (talk) 16:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, and New Zealand. Ynsfial (talk) 16:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep has enough to meet WP:GNG. NealeWellington (talk) 10:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Can you demonstrate how it has enough to meet WP:GNG?Ynsfial (talk) 15:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment for Ynsfial - it seems pointless making multiple attempts to have this article deleted as the previous Afd covered the arguments in sufficient depth. I suggest you look at the deletion review process if you consider there is an issue. NealeWellington (talk) 10:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  No, deletion review is the wrong avenue here. It was a no consensus close, and closed over 2 months ago. It is perfectly fine to bring it back for another look. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Exactly. Thank you.Ynsfial (talk) 18:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 18:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ’’’Keep’’’ He’s a convicted pedophile. Where’s the good in deleting this? Meets WP:GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E0A:E9F:8340:51A7:F4CD:CE5C:4B8B (talk) 18:30, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Can you demonstrate how it has enough to meet WP:GNG?Ynsfial (talk) 15:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as thin as it is, the media coverage in New Zealand and the Netherlands establishes WP:GNG in my opinion. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 01:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep. Looks like an attempt to delete the history to me. It happened before that talented people did crimes (Roman Polansky etc.) and encyclopedia must show the good and the bad. There had been "no consensus" discussion before and my position here is that the person is a notable author and notable criminal and convicted felon at the same time. Also, I see it as a strange attempt from another editor and I have COI concerns here. If the page stays, I suggest to monitor it carefully for any future attempts to delete the historical record.--Saul McGill (talk) 01:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Lacks WP:SIGCOV in multiple RS to meet WP:GNG. I don't think the Dutch NOS article mentioned above provides significant enough coverage. I'd say awards won aren't enough for notability, but this might be worth looking into further. @Saul McGill:, I don't see how he fulfills WP:PERPETRATOR or WP:AUTHOR. He fails all the criteria for both. Mooonswimmer 01:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: The key points to ponder include:

1. Is Vallyon notable as an author? Only a few reliable sources have covered Vallyon’s works. Thus, he is not notable under WP:GNG.

2. Is Vallyon a notable criminal? Vallyon also fails WP:PERPETRATOR. A criminal is only notable if the media in many countries have covered their crimes or if the crimes were historic or major. There has been coverage of his legal issues, but it may not be enough to meet these standards.

3. Is there reliable coverage? To strengthen the argument, we rely on you, the editors and contributors, to provide sources that can offer an in-depth study of Vallyon’s life and work or his crimes.

4. Is there community consensus? The ongoing debate and non-consensus closure of previous discussions highlight the urgency of a closer review of the sources and arguments, mainly regarding their differing viewpoints. Everyone's input is crucial in this process.

In short, the coverage does not explore his works or crimes. If the consensus favors retention due to his criminal history, the article must meet WP:BLP. It is our collective duty to ensure that it remains neutral and relies on proper sources.--AstridMitch (talk) 19:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closer: see concerns at ANI that the AFD !votes by AstridMitch, now blocked, are LLM-aided. Abecedare (talk) 20:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AstridMitch, I struggled to follow your logic, to be honest. For example, per WP:PERPETRATOR, his crimes were covered in New Zealand and Germany, which constitutes international media coverage. Additionally, he has followers and organized groups in many countries, indicating an impact that clearly extends beyond one region or even country. Moreover, the "no consensus" closure doesn't highlight any urgency as you incorrectly claimed. This is simply not true and there is no urgency here unless it may be urgent for you. Regarding the reliable coverage argument, I didn't understand your point. Overall, your comment resembles an emotional appeal to editors' collective consciousness (also beyond my logic in terms of Wikipedia's rules) rather than providing clear arguments.--50.46.167.81 (talk) 07:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep

In addition to being a prolific and frequently published writer who meets WP:GNG, he is notable as a spiritual influencer or "cult leader" (arguably) with large groups of followers in several countries. He wouldn't have been covered by major media outlets in New Zealand and Europe if he were just a child molester. The point is that he was active as a philosopher and "school leader" who organized large international groups of followers, which then caught media attention. They described him as an influencer, a child molester, and a convicted felon. Therefore, I suggest adding "spiritual influencer" or "Spiritual teacher" to the definition, as supported by sources on his page. 50.46.167.81 (talk) 04:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ’’’Strong keep’’’: The coverage in the Stuff article clearly establishes [[WP

]]. He has published many books and ebooks. He was found guilty of the crimes, and I suspect that someone is trying to remove this site from Wikipedia because of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.227.56.207 (talk) 12:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia needs Multiple not only one. TheChronikler7 (talk) 13:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Fails WP:AUTHOR, most of the books published by Sounding-Light Publishing, which is owned by Imre Vallyon. See [6] TheChronikler7 (talk) 13:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Fails all notability guidelines, and there are three Keep comments from IPs; hopefully it's a WP:COI. Faizi Dehlvi (talk) 13:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Right now, I'm seeing No consensus just like the last AFD in May 2024.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: The award implies notability; the Stuff article seems like a RS. with the rest of the sourcing, can easily establish notability. Oaktree b (talk) 23:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  One book review published in a newspaper [7] but it seems to be a copy from a blog, so take it with a grain of salt. Oaktree b (talk) 23:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kimoa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Nominated as WP:SIGCOV are virtually non-existent bar store pages, thus failing WP:NCORP. Sources consists of WP:PRIMARY (website and social media sites). Other third party sources center itself on Signor Alonso. WP:ATD will be a redirect into Fernando Alonso. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Fashion, and Spain. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kingo Root (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Same as previous AfD (Possibly malware, few and unreliable sources, written somewhat like an ad) – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) (ping me!) 16:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) (ping me!) 16:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support as nominator. Additionally, KingRoot and Kingo Root may be different. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) (ping me!) 19:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC) (your nomination is your "vote", this could be seen as a duplicate vote. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC))[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already at AFD, so Soft Deletion is not an option. To the nominator, your nomination is seen as your vote, please do not vote additional times.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Problem management (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

fails general notability guideline. ltbdl (talk) 16:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Self-explanatory term, and the cited sources talk about much more specific concepts that could fall under the umbrella of problem management in IT. Searching for more general, relevant information is hopeless. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 00:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business and Computing. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge with Incident management (ITSM). ^[1] Tule-hog (talk) 02:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Denny Draper (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Only secondary sources in the article and found during WP:BEFORE check are match reports with surface level coverage of the subject. AlexandraAVX (talk) 16:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Football, and England. AlexandraAVX (talk) 16:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 17:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep I am happy with the sources in the article, young player with on going career, although somewhat primary heavy, there seems enough to show basic. Govvy (talk) 23:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Which sources do you believe contain significant coverage of the subject? AlexandraAVX (talk) 06:01, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  GNG and SIGCOV is only intended for non-specific topics per WP:SNG. Please see BASIC and SPORTBASIC for notability of people (basic criteria) as well as for athletes (additional criteria per WP:SPORTSPERSON). Hence there is a distinct difference for people compared to general topics: "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability". CNC (talk) 16:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. All I see here are primary sources, passing mentions, and some YouTube clips. Let'srun (talk) 14:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (contributor). I tried improving this to bring it back to mainspace, based on elements of BASIC per SPORTBASIC (the guidelines that covers the notability of people and athletics), as a combination of secondary sources, rather than the need for exclusive SIGCOV (the guidelines that covers the notability of general topics). So far there is Sky Sports and BBC for this, which I believe is beyond trivial, and borderline BASIC per Govvy comment. It's otherwise unfortunately that the BBC's Women's Football Show episodes are no longer available, as I remember distinct post-game coverage of Draper after her initial goal; that of her international career, prospects and style of play (beyond ROUTINE), that would certainly cross the threshold for basic notability (people and sports-related). I'll try find a copy of this somewhere to see if it could be used as a cite av media ref, even if not possible as an online source. I think it's also fair to assume basic based on "they have achieved success in a major international competition at the highest level", that of being top scorer in the U17 Euro qualifying, as subjectively the U17 Euros are the highest level of competition at that age range, though I can understand how this is intended for senior competitions only, as well as only a guide to likelihood of notability, as opposed to notability itself. Either way, it wouldn't be too much of a loss if the page get's deleted, as I suspect there will be SIGCOV soon enough for it to return. It would be unfortunate for an active WSL player to have their page deleted, but based on policy/coverage it'd be understandable. I can only assume it's age-related as to why there isn't further coverage, given she would be one of the very few active WSL players to have scored a league goal and not have an article. CNC (talk) 16:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Have added a third source for notability [8], so per above comment, that should cover SPORTBASIC. The online source is unavailable, but can be verified here, or otherwise by requesting archival footage from the BBC for non-commercial purposes if preferred (but otherwise nothing wrong with citing media as RS per WP:PUBLISHED). I realise as well that ROUTINE only covers local sources for sport, so with BBC and Sky Sports, game coverage counts for multiple sig cov. At least, I think it's hard to argue that coverage of scoring the winning goal in an important game isn't significant. We can get round to the YT argument if needed, but as it's a verified account from a reliable source (Sky Sports Football) it is "inheriting their level of reliability" per WP:RSPYOUTUBE so shouldn't be needed. CNC (talk) 17:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Routine is definitely not restricted to local sources; per policy: For example, routine news coverage of announcements, events, sports, or celebrities, while sometimes useful, is not by itself a sufficient basis for inclusion of the subject of that coverage. NSPORT's requirement that local sources cannot be routine game coverage does not mean only local sources can be routine game coverage. The video is primary and does not contain encyclopedic coverage: it is routine match commentating and amounts to no more than a sentence or two at most: absolutely not SIGCOV. If this was sufficient for NSPORT purposes we would have articles on every DI and probably DII college football player. JoelleJay (talk) 23:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for the reasons stated above, but also worth adding here that Draper recently signed a pro contract with Leicester. Until now, her WSL appearances had been as an academy player mostly coming off the bench, so reasonable chance of her making match day squads more often. Delete this article and we could end up having to restore it long before Christmas. Leonstojka (talk) 17:12, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep – The sources present in the article seem enough to WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 13:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Sourcing is far too weak and transactional to meet GNG and especially YOUNGATH, and SPORTCRIT is absolutely not met by one or two sentences of unscripted video commentary on one match. JoelleJay (talk) 23:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Space Launch System (Turkey) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Not notable enough to have its own article. No objection if anyone merges it into Space program of Turkey as an alternative to deletion Chidgk1 (talk) 19:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Spaceflight and Turkey. Chidgk1 (talk) 19:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep: Seems to meet GNG, various independent sources Lordseriouspig 20:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Killucan helicopter crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

While tragic, there is nothing to indicate that this aviation accident meets WP:NEWSEVENT (to the extent that lasting relevance is established, it has had impact on a significant region, or is otherwise sufficiently notable to exceed the WP:NOTNEWS threshold). In the discussion at Talk:Killucan helicopter crash, while many (all?) contributors appear to agree that the title is not sufficiently notable for a standalone article, there is less clarity on whether the title should be retained as a redirect (as an alternative to deleteion). Or, if a redirect is retained, where it should direct the reader. Personally, as nom, I wonder if the title should simply be deleted. And any discussion/action, on whether/where the accident should be mentioned WP:WITHIN an another article, addressed in the course of "normal" editing. Guliolopez (talk) 17:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 17:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 17:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: The accident is noted appropriately and adequately in the Accidents and incidents section of the Bell 505 Jet Ranger X article. An accident which has not risen to general encyclopaedic notability does not warrant mentioning in any other article, and certainly does not warrant its own dedicated article, because Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a newspaper.

Common accidents do not warrant attention in an encyclopaedia. The death toll here is minor, being limited to two victims only. The accident is distinguished from a common road accident only by the mode of transport – the helicopter – which sensationalises the incident slightly.

The unanimous consensus (so far) on the article talk page is that the incident lacks notability. I support article deletion without any redirect. Spideog (talk) 00:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gunnar Malmqvist (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 14:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Motorsport, and Sweden. LibStar (talk) 14:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep – same as my argument for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Long (speedway rider) thathe was one of the title clinching finalist of a world championship event, thus he should be able to pass WP:NMOTORSPORT. WP:ATD will be to draftify for expansion. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Commenting here to note to the closing administrator that no such criteria exists in NMOTORSPORT. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 09:41, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: I've added one additional reference from a Swedish newspaper, but I've only got access to things far more recent than Gunnar Malmqvist's career at home. A search in he newspaper archive of the Royal Library of Sweden gives some promising results, if someone's got access to it through e.g. the university connection (though it's the wrong time of the year to be present on campus, I suppose). /Julle (talk) 03:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 17:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kerry Chen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:GNG. Non-notable entrepreneur who lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them. Promo article. Fjnat (talk) 16:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and China. Shellwood (talk) 16:46, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 August 2. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 17:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chaudhry Aurangzeb (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

At first glance, the BLP seems good with citations and the subject appears notable. However, upon closer evaluation of the coverage, it falls short of meeting the GNG. The coverage tends to be routine, interview-based, or promotional in nature, lacking sig/in-depth or even independent. Furthermore, as the subject is not a member of parliament, they do not fulfill the NPOL either. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Politicians, and Business. C F A 💬 21:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of suspensions in the NFL (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This list falls short of WP:NLIST, specifically that this list is not discussed as a group in reliable sources. Wikipedia is not a catalog nor is it a sports almanac listing every instance of something happening. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Lists. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Passes NLIST. [9][10][11][12] There is also a list of coaching suspensions on Newspapers.com but I can't clip it due to not having Publisher Extra. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just noting that all of those sources have notable qualifiers like "longest", "for gambling", "for PEDs", and "personal conduct". None discuss "every NFL suspension ever, dating back to the 1920s". Smaller, more specific lists, may meet notability standards for lists, but there is no relation between current NFL suspensions and the ones enacted in the 1920s. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi Gonzo, I know someone will say WP:OTHERSTUFF but could you tell me how Detroit Lions draft history that you recently supported passes NLIST if this suspensions list doesn't? Every single Lions draft pick ever isn't discussed in any sources either if we're being picky. The 1936–1969 split by itself is about as long as this suspensions page. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • PFR.com, ProFootballNetwork.com, 247sports.com all provide comprehensive listings of the Packers draft history. The topic of the "Packers draft history" is discussed often, like ranking the best draft classes, discussing the specific draft classes by GM, biggest draft busts, etc. Green Bay Packers draft history (and the Lions) was split up per WP:SPINOFF and WP:SUMMARY. They were just getting to big to easily navigate. With the suspensions list, I don't see any comprehensive listing nor any source that talks about all historical suspensions. If the scope of this was more focused on an individual topic, I would likely change my mind. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The media covers this. Dream Focus 17:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Not really finding many issues with the main part of the list, though a breakout into its own article for those suspensions under the substance abuse policy should be considered; the sources and GNG are not in question here. Nate • (chatter) 20:18, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Familial relationships of Errol Musk (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Errol Musk is not in any way notable independent of his relation to Elon Musk. He ran for public office, but was never elected, but was only elected once to a local city council, he was an engineer, but didn't do anything of note. There is nothing about him is notable other than that he was the father of Elon Musk. Ergzay (talk) 01:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He ran for public office, but was never elected That's actually not correct, he was elected in '72 and served until the 80s. His 1983 resignation was front page news. Feoffer (talk) 05:20, 12 July 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Ah I missed that, but that was a local city council. None of the people in my city council have wikipedia pages. Ergzay (talk) 06:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well he wasn't "just any" councilman, he was a vocally anti-apartheid English-speaking South African politician in 1972 Pretoria! Per Isaacson and many others, that's actually a really big deal in his time and place, but damned if I can find really good English-language sourcing which actually deep-dives into that part of his life story. Feoffer (talk) 11:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It could be great if there is a comparison on how vocal he was compared to the famous Helen Suzman. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 13:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a wikipedia page on even the contents of that 1972 city council? Did that 1972 city council do anything of note? Ergzay (talk) 00:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Errol Musk does not meet the notability guidelines despite his connection with Elon Musk. His career achievements and political work are not notable on their own. His main claim to fame is that he is the father of Elon Musk. It's crucial to adhere to WP:BLP, and keeping a separate article about only Musk's family does not meet these standards.--AstridMitch (talk) 02:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Note to closer: see concerns at ANI that the AFD !votes by AstridMitch, now blocked, are LLM-aided. Abecedare (talk) 20:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep*: He is an antiracist fighter AND elected representative AND father of Elon Musk - this 3 together is enough for a wikipedia page. 2A00:1110:143:1160:D1BF:A9E6:C3C3:862D (talk) 10:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Do you have sources to prove this? "Trust me, bro" isn't quite what we're looking for. Oaktree b (talk) 15:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  IP editor's comment obviously shows a deep unfamiliarity with AFD, but sourcing in the article does substantiate that Errol Musk was prominent leader then-embryonic anti-Apartheid movement. Feoffer (talk) 16:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Ridiculous to have an article about someone's "familial relationships" without giving him his own article. Astaire (talk) 02:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Well, it's like when we do "Death of so-and-so" for notable deaths. It's a reminder to readers that the current article doesn't (yet) cover Errol's political career in the depth required of a true BLP. Feoffer (talk) 05:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  A familial relationships article for Elon Musk would be more sane, in which case Errol Musk could be mentioned there, though I'd think it should still be just part of the Elon Musk article. Ergzay (talk) 06:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Well that's an excellent point. I definitely think of it as a Elon sub-article: we don't need to litigate emerald mines and spousal abuse and false claims of funding or abandonment on Elon's literal BLP. Feoffer (talk) 06:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't understand what you mean by "Elon sub-article". If it's not valuable enough to put on the page on Elon Musk then it's probably not valuable enough to put on any page on Wikipedia. I'm not sure on this last point, but I think "biography of living persons" policies apply even if it's a spin-off of the main article. That's not a loophole of the rule. Ergzay (talk) 00:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  From WP:BLP:

  BLP applies to all material about living persons anywhere on Wikipedia, including talk pages, edit summaries, user pages, images, categories, lists, article titles and drafts.

  Ergzay (talk) 00:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  BLP absolutely applies to ALL articles, I just meant we shouldn't be covering a notable abuser on one of their victim's biographical articles. Feoffer (talk) 14:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as creator. GNG is met, he's been covered extensively in the press and in-depth in at least two different books. Ultimately, it's not fair to Maye Musk or Elon Musk to document Errol's extensive controversial public behavior on those articles, but neither is it fair to them for us simply to delete that verified information from the project. I haven't found fulltext access, but Afrikaans newspaper archive searches and the Isaacson book show Errol was a VERY notable person during his political career, long before Elon was an adult. Errol has a second claim to notability for his allegedly abusive relationships with Maye and Elon. Finally, Errol again became controversial for a marriage to a former stepdaughter (cf Soon-Yi Previn). Feoffer (talk) 04:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Politicians, Engineering, and South Africa. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Even if this was notable, having it as a "familial relationships of" article makes 0 sense when it is basically a biography of him (focusing on his relationships because that's all the sources talk about!)

The only thing here that's not directly related to, or from publications about, Elon or his ex wife is the "having a child with his stepdaughter" thing which is not enough to have an article on PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your words carry lots of weight with me. Are you saying we should just move this content into a BLP titled Errol Musk? And if not, do you have an opinion on where we SHOULD cover what is known about Errol? We've got 4 different BLPs from folks reliably alleging abuse at Errol's hands. I know @Ergzay: expressed a preference for covering it at Elon's BLP, but it seems unfair to me to single out one victim like that, when it's a multidecade pattern of abuse that pre- and post- dated Elons interactions. Errol's later promotion of conspiracy theories and admission of fathering multiple children with a stepchild obviously lend credence to their prior allegations. Feoffer (talk) 10:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if there's to be something here, it should be a BLP. The content in this article is basically a BLP already. I believe there was already an AfD for the initial Errol Musk article though.

An alternative could be some sort of... Musk family article? I mean, his family's certainly discussed and he's certainly not the only notable member. Singling out his dad, who does not have his own article, for an article to be based around, doesn't make much sense. But if it's notable as part of his whole family then maybe, idk.

I'm not sure if either of these ideas are good, though, or if either is notable. Your point about his political career making him notable is a possibility but until sigcov related to that is presented the jury's still out. Not impossible though. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for this feedback.

I probably should have said somewhere that this article was created to hold content removed in Musk family (which was deleted on June 1) which had been merged from Errol Musk (merged into Musk Family in Sept 2023). I concur that a full BLP should wait for the South African source, but in the mean time, the victims really do deserve for it to be SOMEWHERE in Wikipedia.(/?) Feoffer (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not in the business of deciding what people "deserve". Please read WP:RGW. Astaire (talk) 12:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lol fair enough, I'm not on a crusade. but it's still verifiable content with exculpatory BLP implications for Elon and Maye. Feoffer (talk) 12:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some of this content may belong somewhere on Wikipedia, but the current article is too flawed to stand. If it is really about "familial relationships", why does it discuss his business career, his election to city council and his game lodge? Why should anyone care that Errol claimed that Elon upgraded his home security system? Astaire (talk) 13:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why should anyone care that Errol claimed that Elon upgraded his home security system?

Because it contradicts the false claims in media (sourced to Errol) of Elon's supposed abandonment of a disabled parent. Feoffer (talk) 13:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Including that content with that justification is a WP:OR issue, unless reliable sources explicitly note the contradiction themselves. Astaire (talk) 13:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, any answer to your question about "why should anyone care" would be OR to put in article unless it was explicitly noted in RS. Feoffer (talk) 08:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Draftify Weird article. Creator claims that there is more coverage of him out there, so I don't think a full delete is warranted. Either way, the article is not ready for mainspace. If the consensus ends up being to delete, that would be fine by me. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 06:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify or Delete I'm the one who submitted this, but I'm fine with either option. It doesn't make sense to have it as an article though. I'm not sure what moving it to a Draft could fix though. Ergzay (talk) 06:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I interpret draftify calls as me having jumped the gun by publishing it in mainspace before we got access to the sources on political career needed to make a full balanced BLP. I get it's an unorthodox title, but it's also a little bit of a blpvio to not document Errol's verifiably-checkered past somewhere, given his public attacks on family. I don't feel good about stuffing it all into the BLP of one of his victims. Feoffer (talk) 11:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The title is probably the biggest problem. Having an articles about the familial relationships of someone without having an article on the person themselves is a bit ridiculous. But there's lots of other issues beyond that, even if the page was moved, like the noteworthiness of the man himself and of anything he thinks beyond it's relation to Elon Musk. Ergzay (talk) 00:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Draftify Plenty of notable source material for an article about the man more so than his "relations", especially since Musk Family got effectively yeeted. QRep2020 (talk) 16:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and rename as Errol Musk - Numerous sources discuss his own life, so that his bio would easily pass GNG. Surely his son's fame directed attention to him, just like Maye Musk, Kimbal Musk and Tosca Musk; we've got plenty of coverage for those individuals as well, who arguably wouldn't be notably featured in the press if Elon's life hadn't attracted so much scrutiny. Ironic that notability is not inherited, though in this case the hyper-notability of one person did engender notability of various family members... — JFG ^talk 10:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 06:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Draftify with instructions to either make the article titled Errol Musk, or Family of Elon Musk. Walsh90210 (talk) 17:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm also fine with keeping this at Errol Musk, and either splitting the "family" material to a new article, or removing it. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • AFD is a blunt tool. We can't close a discussion with editing instructions. That's left to editors if the article is Kept. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • This isn't a notable topic, but some of the content could be saved for a different topic. The only "blunt" option available is to draftify it until that tension is resolved. Walsh90210 (talk) 14:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and move to Errol Musk. I think there is probably enough written about him in RS to satisfy WP:GNG. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 21:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Again, Moving is an editorial act that will be discussed if an article is Kept. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    AFDs end with consensus to Merge all the time. Feoffer (talk) 11:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Feoffer, I know this, I close a lot of AFD discussions. The editor did not say Merge they said Move and that's what I Was responding to. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting this discussion as there is still no consensus. Of interest, is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Musk family (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Errol Musk. I don't think that this article can be moved to Errol Musk as that page has an extensive page history that shouldn't be deleted, there could be issues with attribution.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Despite the bizarre title, this a biography in all but name. There was a strong consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Errol Musk that this wasn't worthy of a standalone article. Per WP:INVALIDBIO That person A has a relationship with well-known person B, such as being a spouse or child, is not a reason for a standalone article on A. Hemiauchenia (talk) 06:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Notable person and also a father of a notable person Isla🏳️‍⚧ 11:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

strong keep and move to Errol Musk. He's notable for his career in business and politics as well as his noteworthiness in the news. Kingofthedead (talk) 07:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aydoh8^[contribs] 15:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete if this person is that important, they can have their own article. Don't remove the deletion tag on the article either; I've restored it. Most sources are about Elon and even use him in the title; there's maybe one source that's vaguely about Errol. Famous by association isn't what we're looking for. The familial relationships of a non-notable individual are not notable. Oaktree b (talk) 15:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sivaiah Potla (Surgeon) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Article about a non-notable orthopedic and surgeon that does not meet WP:GNG. Sources are PR and paid pieces. Jamiebuba (talk) 15:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and India. Jamiebuba (talk) 15:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Kabiri (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Not seeing how they satisfy WP:NPOL. He only served as a "deputy of cooperative affairs in the Ministry of Cooperation, Labor and Social Welfare". Does not meet WP:GNG at best. Jamiebuba (talk) 15:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Politics, and Iran. Jamiebuba (talk) 15:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The True Audio (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:NPRODUCT. Non-notable software product/project. Melmann 14:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paradha (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:NFF. No evidence that the film has begun principal photography. Melmann 14:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and India. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dandenong West Football Club (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Contested redirect (courtesy @Nyttend:) and N/C a year ago at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dandenong Football and Netball Club, but still no evidence of independent sourcing leading to notability for this team. Star Mississippi 13:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports and Australia. Star Mississippi 13:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• When I came along, I found that it had been redirected on notability grounds, while other clubs in its league still had articles. I have no opinion on notability, but I believe it absurd to have articles on some clubs in a league while redirecting others. If this concludes in deletion, others ought to be handled likewise. Nyttend (talk) 23:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew Immers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Immers fails GNG with a lack of SIGCOV. The sources are more focused on Steven van de Velde than Immers. Dougal18 (talk) 12:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect – I made a good faith effort to try and expand this earlier but Dougal18 is right, the sourcing is almost entirely about his connection to Steven van de Velde. They did win a match but I don't think that translates to a medal where WP:NOLYMPICS comes into play and even then that's presumptive notability. It's possible I'm not looking in the right places and the current coverage is just drowning out other aspects of this guy's career but I honestly haven't found anything. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 12:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, Volleyball, and Netherlands. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:18, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FM 90.7 (New Zealand) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:N. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 12:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio and New Zealand. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 12:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Radio Bay of Plenty, which covers this temporary (but reasonably historic) FM radio service. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:53, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fight Dem Back (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:GNG. Can only find trivial mentions of this website/group. Traumnovelle (talk) 10:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Traumnovelle (talk) 10:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Australia. Shellwood (talk) 11:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, per nom. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 12:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of tallest buildings in Lucknow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:NLIST. None of the mentioned buildings are notable by itself and aren't fulfilling GNG. No SIGCOV for the list article alone. Also, WP:NOTDIR. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture, Lists, India, and Uttar Pradesh. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:NOTDIR. Not a notable topic. Orientls (talk) 18:15, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Very few notable entries to satisfy WP:NLIST. LibStar (talk) 04:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Well, I can WP:LINK WP:UPPERCASE WP:STUFF WP:ALSO. WP:PER List of tallest buildings in Chicago (FL), List of tallest buildings in New York City (FL), List of tallest buildings in Miami (FL), List of tallest buildings in Melbourne, List of tallest buildings in Sydney. There has to be more of an argument than "this is a list of tallest buildings in a city, which makes it a directory, which is bad". jp×g🗯️ 06:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. LibStar (talk) 06:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are over 100 sources for the Sydney list, and many buildings have their own articles, unlike this list for Lucknow. LibStar (talk) 06:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Every building except 1 in the Chicago list is notable and has an article. Unlike this Lucknow list which has no notable buildings. LibStar (talk) 09:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WORDINALLCAPS.

"This needs to be deleted because NOTDIR" is just not true.

Maybe it needs to be deleted, but WNOTDIR is not the reason why.

You can see that this is not the case, and this is now how NOTDIR actually works, by the fact that several city-based lists of tallest buildings are featured articles. If the problem is that this lacks sourcing, that is a separate issue. jp×g🗯️ 09:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 10:23, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. This isn't a directory, so WP:NOTDIR doesn't apply. But WP:NLIST does, and it fails this standard, as there is no evidence that Lucknow's tallest buildings as a set have "been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources." There is no such source in the article and I can't find one in my WP:BEFORE search. Moreover, there are vast amounts of unsourced information here and no available reliable sources that would validate the heights of all these buildings. The sourcing that does exist is WP:PRIMARY or based on Emporis, which remains in use on WP-EN but according to many noticeboard discussions cannot be considered reliable. Ultimately, without reliable sources discussing these buildings as a set, this article is an exercise in WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Balalin Theater Troupe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Lacks notability, significance. Not much found when search performed on Google etc. Thewikizoomer (talk) 09:49, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Theatre and Palestine. Shellwood (talk) 11:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Einar Kyllingstad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. No Google news hits and 1 small mention in Google books. LibStar (talk) 09:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Motorsport, and Norway. LibStar (talk) 09:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Did you search the magazine Tygodnik Żużlowy nr 4(159), 1994, where we know he is covered per the picture? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep WP:SUSTAINED Norwegian media coverage in [13] [14] [15] etc. Special:Whatlinkshere reveals an extensive career beyond what is mentioned in the low-effort article. This includes a bronze medal at the 1991 Speedway World Pairs Championship, which caused some coverage. Was one of five "talented sportspeople" covered in two NRK programs, one in 1985 and a follow-up in 1991. Expecting loads of results in Google News for a 1980s rider is a notion best left ignored. Geschichte (talk) 19:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Geschichte. Being a double national champion, pass criteria 4 of (an overly biased towards circuit racing that is] WP:NMOTORSPORT. SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:49, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Narendra Bhooshan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Non-notable civil servant. Civil servants aren't eligible under WP:NPOL, therefore notability needs to be established per WP:GNG, but the sources cited don't come even close to achieving this, being a mix of appointment announcements, primary sources, and ones where the subject is commenting on something ex officio. BEFORE finds nothing better.

This has been draftified (twice) already, so that's not an option, and I didn't think A7 would stick, hence here we are. The last discussion had minimal participation, so hoping for a bit more this time. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, India, and Uttar Pradesh. DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree: While not cited in this article, this person was head of the early COVID-19 pandemic response in a nationally significant city in India as "the most senior official in the Gautam Budh Nagar district".^[2] Probably warranting an article. Tsarivan613 (talk) 14:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any sources that discuss what he accomplished during his time as the head of the COVID-19 pandemic response team? If not, this would end up being just like every other regular announcement article. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:20, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like he helped arrange an oxygen generation security plan for Noida city during early 2021.^[3] India had been experiencing shortages of supplemental oxygen during the delta variant wave.^[4] Tsarivan613 (talk) 23:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I see a lot of trivial coverage and then some more significant coverage that isn't independent or from WP:RS. But I think this has potential for a !keep if the only concern is notability. Bobby Cohn (talk) 16:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Symbol-intensive brand (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Some kinda essay or dictionary definition, not an encyclopedia article. I am also nominating these pages for the same reason: Icon brand & Cult brand. Polygnotus (talk) 07:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Advertising and Management. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:20, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the "See also" in your nomination is somewhat confusing. For clarification, I would recommend changing it to something a long the lines of "I am also nominating these pages for the same reason" -1ctinus📝🗨 17:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@1ctinus: Thanks!  Fixed Polygnotus (talk) 20:18, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cult brand (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Some kinda essay or dictionary definition, not an encyclopedia article. I am also nominating these pages for the same reason: Icon brand & Symbol-intensive brand. Polygnotus (talk) 07:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Advertising and Management. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Icon brand (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Some kinda essay or dictionary definition, not an encyclopedia article. I am also nominating these pages for the same reason: Cult brand & Symbol-intensive brand. Polygnotus (talk) 07:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Advertising and Management. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David J. Jackson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Between the two sentence stub and the admission of self-creation, this isn't a particularly promising page. I don't know if there's anything approaching a minimum number of citations sought for an NACADEMICS#1/#4 pass, and perhaps the 703 listed on Google Scholar is far and away enough, but I couldn't find any evidence of passage of any other NACADEMICS criteria so I would feel wrong just leaving this here without bringing it up for discussion. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Ohio. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - WP:PROMO self promotional article written by a university professor 7 years ago. The only source is WP:PRIMARY, his own personal bio page at the university. — Maile (talk) 11:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Entertainment and Politics. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and expand. He fails WP:NACADEMIC criterion 1 (his h-index of 10 is much lower than would be expected from a senior professor in the social sciences). However, he passes NACADEMIC criterion 7(a) as "frequently quoted in conventional media as an academic expert in a particular area." See quotations in the Financial Times, The Atlantic, Associated Press, PolitiFact, Canadian Broadcasting Corp., Axios, Variety, the Tennessean, the Detroit News and more on his area of expertise, which is celebrity influence on politics. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The citation profile doesn't stand out as above average. Arguably, he works in a field where book publication is a more significant indicator than journal-article publication, so per WP:AUTHOR we should look for reliable reviews. He has written two books, per his faculty bio, and I'd be willing to call this a WP:AUTHOR pass if both had received multiple substantial reviews in the academic literature. However, I could only find two reviews of Entertainment and Politics [17][18] and none for Classrooms and Barrooms: An American in Poland. (This review of the latter is on a personal website and doesn't count.) XOR'easter (talk) 19:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edgar Chibaka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

should be deleted due to the lack of significant independent coverage that meets the General Notability Guideline (GNG), relying instead on primary sources, company related news and not significant mentions. LusikSnusik (talk) 10:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Businesspeople, Africa, and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep or redirect: to Nyasa Times, the company that the subject found. Subject has enough WP:GNG. For example here reported by the Telegraph, subject won the Black British Business Person of the Year award in 2021. I also found this where subject is being the founder and the Chief Executive Officer of Malawi's leading online publication, the Nyasa Times that he found in 2006. This could be used to sustain the article per (WP:NEXIST). --Tumbuka Arch (talk) 13:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete interviews are a poor way to establish notability and if he owns the Nyasa Times then it isn't independent enough to establish notability. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:42, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Traumnovelle Alternatively, it makes sense to redirect it to their company on Wikipedia that the subject found, thus Nyasa Times. Again, not all sources are interviews. Furthermore, this AfD was made by someone at random who was even reported at ANI here and there is even a discussion on their talk page about their nominations. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 07:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't oppose a redirect. I looked at the references now. I presumed the sources you mentioned were the strongest sources. The strongest source appears to be the Yorkshire Evening Post but it isn't enough for notability in my opinion. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Traumnovelle did you happen to look at the Telegraph source I linked in my !vote? It’s comparable to the Evening Post as SIGCOV in my view. Dclemens1971 (talk) 10:20, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see it now, but I don't think it's sufficiently independent here: 'The annual event, for which The Telegraph is a media partner'. Traumnovelle (talk) 10:23, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dagnabbit, didn’t see that on my first read. Switching my !vote now. Dclemens1971 (talk) 10:31, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Week keep. The Yorkshire Evening Post and Daily Telegraph profiles bring it just over the line of WP:SIGCOV in secondary, independent, reliable sources for a WP:GNG pass. I would oppose a redirect; I think the Nyasa Times may be less notable than its founder. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:17, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still no consensus. I'd like to close this as a Redirect but there is strong opposition to that outcome.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The Telegraph source I linked in my struck !vote above is insufficiently independent, which leaves a single instance of SIGCOV. I cannot find evidence of the Nyasa Times’ notability and may bring that page to AfD in the near future, but if others wish to redirect there for now, I won’t oppose it. Dclemens1971 (talk) 10:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kelman's source characteristics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Doesn't appear to meet WP:N or have a good WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 15:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Advertising and Economics. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 15:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=kelman+compliance+identification+internalization. It seems like this concept is pretty notable in the communications literature, with Kelman's original paper having over 6,000 citations. However, that doesn't change that this article needs to be renamed and rewritten from scratch (in my opinion). Mathwriter2718 (talk) 12:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consulate-General of Iran, Dubai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Embassies are not inherently notable, consulates even less so. This one fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 14:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bilateral relations, Iran, and United Arab Emirates. LibStar (talk) 14:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete does not pass NCORP. Mccapra (talk) 12:33, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Version Control by Example (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Found this while looking through orphans. A WP:BEFORE Fails to come up with any reviews or charts besides programming blogs. Even reviews linked on the author's website lacks anything for WP:NBOOK. -1ctinus📝🗨 14:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature, Computing, and Software. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 15:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. I could not find significant coverage in my searches for sources. The subject does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria. Cunard (talk) 08:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Related AfD for the author: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Sink. Cunard (talk) 08:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Found the occaisional passing mention, but no coverage to meet WP:NBOOK. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 13:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Doesn't seem to meet WP:NBOOKS or WP:GNG. Suriname0 (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seneb-Neb-Af (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I can only find sources and content unduly taking about mastaba. If there should be ATD, then redirect. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Africa, and Egypt. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: mastaba is not an appropriate redirect target, as he is not mentioned there. It's clear that he's only notable as the person who was buried in his mastaba, though, so the AfD discussion here should centre on whether Mastaba of Seneb-Neb-Af is notable (we can rename the article after the AfD if so). -- asilvering (talk) 18:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Mastaba is a generic term for a type of tomb. Redirecting there would make no sense. It could be mentioned at Dahshur#Tombs and cemeteries, though. XOR'easter (talk) 19:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kenny Ingalls (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Motorsport, and United States of America. LibStar (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P-GRADE Portal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

The article lacks of WP:GNG, since it is a project of cloud infrastructure in grid computing with little overall impact and very few available sources, mostly self-published sources of the authors of this project. It seems there are a few other project-related articles that are related to the Institute for Computer Science and Control (SZTAKI) of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences that seem to lack considerably WP:GNG as well. Recently, other related articles have been already deleted: [19] and [20]. The targetted articles, like this nomination, GUSE, and the deleted article of MTA SZTAKI Laboratory of Parallel and Distributed Systems, were all created by the same user many years ago. Chiserc (talk) 07:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. Chiserc (talk) 07:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chickenpox (South Park) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Only two sources, which do not appear to qualify as SIGCOV. There does not seem to be a justification based on notability as on why this episode should have a separate article (i.e. it could also be redirected to South Park (season 2). Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 05:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Comics and animation, United States of America, and Colorado. Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 05:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to South Park season 2 - The A.V. Club is SIGCOV but it alone isn't enough. I found some list entries by MovieWeb ([21]) and Digital Spy ([22]) but I don't consider those SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. --Mika1h (talk) 09:27, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep AV Club is sigcov, and I feel making the list at movieweb for underrated episodes (coming 20+ years after it originally aired) is cause enough for passing WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 18:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Two sources -- as they say, OH! That's A SIGCOV!! jp×g🗯️ 23:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Two sources does not make it enough a SIGCOV. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. As said above, it may be WP:RS but two sources does not make it a WP:SIGCOV

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please remember to sign any comments you make in an AFD discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Two sources can be sigcov, FWIW. The AV club piece is quite extensive and the other two sources are less so but are fine. PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I agree that the AV Club and Movieweb sources are acceptable for demonstrating notability. Toughpigs (talk) 17:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ESNA European Higher Education News (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Nominated on pl wiki for deletion as spam with possible hoax elements (pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2024:07:17:ESNA European Higher Education News). It also seems to fail WP:NORG/WP:GNG. My BEFORE finds next to zero visiblity for this entity in GS/GB. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media, Education, and Germany. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:31, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Long (speedway rider) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, only primary sources provided. Nothing found when searching ["Henry Long " speedway] LibStar (talk) 03:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Motorsport, and South Africa. LibStar (talk) 03:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep for that he was one of the title clinching finalist of a world championship event, thus he should be able to pass WP:NMOTORSPORT. WP:ATD will be to draftify for expansion. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • That isn't a criteria of WP:NMOTORSPORT? 5225_C (talk • contributions) 03:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    That criteria can be summed up in two words - utter ******* - too overly biased on circuit racing and overly biased on multi-round championships too IMO, because the sport attracts their fanboys. As with #9, how many classes are there at the Bonneville Speed Week? How many records are up for grabs there by SCTA? Or that does not count as notability despite media talking about the cars in that event?

    I think the criteria for world championship speedway should be at least 2 or more appearances in title clinching finals. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • You can't appeal to your ideal version of the guideline. It doesn't say what you want it to. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 05:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

      A criteria for WP:NTRACK above says "Finished top 8 in a competition at the highest level outside of the Olympic Games and world championships." This means all finalists at those two events pass notabilty as there are 8 lanes on an IAAF approved track. This is what my point is based on. SpacedFarmer (talk) 15:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

      • NTRACK is for track and field athletes. The IAAF is the old name of the governing body for athletics, not for speedway. I don't understand why you would build your argument on a notability guideline for an entirely different sport. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 01:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

        Agree with above comment from 5225. LibStar (talk) 03:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – Primary sources only, no indication of notability. No sources presented to prove otherwise. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 03:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Red Ink Awards (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Non-notable award. References are all announcements of winners and the majority are unreliable, falling under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. A WP:BEFORE was unable to locate significant coverage that talks about the reward itself. CNMall41 (talk) 03:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism, Awards, and India. CNMall41 (talk) 03:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep but move: It looks like these should be written as "RedInk Awards". I don't see WP:NEWSORGINDIA really applying here: These are awarded by the Mumbai Press Club, so any reporting is unlikely to be paid. Coverage of almost any journalism award is going to be a little iffy on independence due to sources written by journalists with personal and organisational interests, memberships, and possibly voting participation (although these ones are juried). If the Mumbai Press Club had an article -- and I'm not sure it should -- I'd be happy with a merge to section. In the absence of that ATD, because there is post-event reporting in national sources and the awards presenters have included a Chief Justice of India, a State Governor, a State Chief Minister, and a federal Minister (indicating a particular level of repute)[23][24][25][26][27], and it's reasonable for the awards to [continue to] be listed at recipients' articles and this list article facilitates interlinking, I'm landing on retention (possibly slight WP:IAR). ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 13:12, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking for a good redirect as an WP:ATD but unfortunately one does not exists. "Press Trust of India" and "News Express Service" bylines fit the definition of NEWSORGINDIA 100% though. I am wondering which ones you feel do not fall under that criteria as I would be happy to go back and look (I may have missed something). I think it would be more of WP:ATA as opposed to WP:IAR. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yorktel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Lack of notability established with WP:RS Amigao (talk) 03:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Technology, and New Jersey. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which sources are unreliable? BarnyardWill (talk) 21:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marko Čarapić (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

6 out of the 7 citations are for Google Books, and I see no inherent notability. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 04:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Serbia. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 04:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History and Military. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Luca Hámori (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Participation at a singular athletic event at which one lost is not notable, existing coverage of the subject is at most notable for inclusion in Concerns and controversies at the 2024 Summer Olympics and or redirect to Imane Khelif#2024: Summer Olympics — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 03:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 03:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This article is now being worked on. I was literally adding a Reuters article reporting on her. Give it a day or two and you should see a decenrly fleshed out start.

2601:19E:427E:5BB0:9F16:23A8:BD16:E25 (talk) 03:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can find no coverage of the subject unrelated to Imane Khelif. If the only reliable coverage of the subject is in relation to another subject, the article should be Merged. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 03:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Boxing, Olympics, and Hungary. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Winning a national championship at practically anything could make you notable. If she wins her quarter-final she wins a bronze medal which makes her notable, let's wait until we see the outcome of Saturday's match. PatGallacher (talk) 12:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have added a few previous medal wins, this must make her notable. PatGallacher (talk) 12:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Medals are irrelevant to the discussion, sources are relevant. Sources that cover the medals are relevant. Geschichte (talk) 14:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I agree. Those are relevant and reliable sources that assert notability. 2601:19E:427E:5BB0:1F35:93D2:DE4F:257C (talk) 15:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Hungary's only-ever female Olympic boxer and an 11-time national champion. Clearly notable with plenty of coverage. See international coverage from the past few days (Fox News, Marca, Reuters) and plenty of coverage from before the past few days (Tol, Eurosport, Nemzeti Sport, tons more on Arcanum). BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, an Olympic Games participant is automatically notable. --Norden1990 (talk) 16:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  No. Geschichte (talk) 21:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. She hasn’t even been eliminated from the tournament yet. You obviously have an agenda. 2600:1702:4BF5:7810:B55E:7F8A:6604:850A (talk) 20:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Georgian regions by life expectancy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I don't believe this article meets WP:NLIST. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists and Georgia (country). Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTSTAT Statistics that lack context or explanation can reduce readability and may be confusing; accordingly, statistics should be placed in tables to enhance readability, and articles with statistics should include explanatory text providing context. and per Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 03:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• delete per Miminity ... sawyer * he/they * talk 07:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Category:Life expectancy We have plenty articles for this for other nations. Wikipedia isn't just an encyclopedia but an WP:ALMANAC. Dream Focus 17:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Willy Decker (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Questionable notability. I could find limited sources with a Google search to satisfy the inline citations template. Therefore probably fails WP:GNG. TrueCRaysball ^💬|✏️ 02:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• NOTE: The "Willy Decker" in this AfD is a completely different one from the one that was the subject of the first AfD. TrueCRaysball ^💬|✏️ 02:20, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Theatre, and Germany. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Someone who directed a Henze opera world premiere and is listed in Who's Who? is notable. I have no time to look today but will next week unless this is closed by then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Durand Bernarr (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

The subject fails the criteria for WP:SINGER. Most of the information listed was provided by the subject (User:Durandbernarr). The page also does not get a lot of page views. Sackkid (talk) 01:11, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• weak keep: [28], [29] and the few Billboard articles now used as sourcing give us enough to build a minimal article. The first Billboard source is but a paragraph long, but this individual seems to have some level of critical recognition. Oaktree b (talk) 01:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  A Tiny Desk performance isn't enough to make someone notable. If that were the case, a lot of the musicians (local or otherwise) on that show would qualify for a Wikipedia article. As for the Billboard articles, none of them are featured articles on him, they just simply mention him; which makes him fail WP:SIGCOV. He hasn't charted on any Billboard chart. Again, he fails the music notability. If he had a charting song or even notable award like a Grammy, we wouldn't having this discussion. But at best, he is a slightly popular backup singer. From the articles I've read before nominating, he uses Erykah Badu as his claim to notability but without that, what makes him notable by Wikipedia criteria? And as stated, most of what was added to this page, was added by him, so that is a conflict of interest. Sackkid (talk) 01:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Some of this is written more like an advertisement biography that singers use on their website.

"in November 2012, he released his holiday EP titled "EXTRA Stankin' Christmas". He's also independently released various EP's and LP's distributed between 2010 and 2014 on Spotify, apple music and Bandcamp. Some of which have been removed. In September 2016, he released a 7 track EP, "Sound Check" and released a video for the lead single "Around". Bernarr collaborates with various known name as well as indie artists as a feature or providing backgrounds. He has collaborated and performed with Ari Lennox, Kaytranada, The Foreign Exchange, The Internet, Sam Sparro, Thundercat, Knxwledge, Qveen Herby, and Teedra Moses."

I could understand if he were listing the singers along with the tours as a way of going chronologically from one job to another but when you group together like this, it sounds more like a résumé. And then you have unsourced claims like his occupation is a "vocal arranger, pianist, DJ, skater, actor, host" and he also sings gospel and jazz; which songs are those? Sackkid (talk) 02:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, California, and Ohio. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zdeněk Dominik (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. There appears to be a namesake ice hockey player that gets coverage when I searched. But not for this speedway rider. LibStar (talk) 01:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Motorsport, and Czech Republic. LibStar (talk) 01:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, yeah I thought that was the guy but no, Fails SIGCOV Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 03:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nico Pattyn (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Notability and sourcing concerns. No claim of notability other than performing well in the International Quizzing Championships, no substantial sourcing. Walsh90210 (talk) 00:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Belgium. Walsh90210 (talk) 00:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Some coverage in Dutch-language sources from Belgium: [30] and [31]. This is about him doing a parody of something [32]. Oaktree b (talk) 00:46, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]