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Loft Theatre

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The only coverage that I can find are announcements about the company from Dayton, Ohio sources which fails WP:CORP, including WP:AUD. A company that performs there is at AfD as well - Human Race Theatre Company. SL93 (talk) 23:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Human Race Theatre Company

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The only coverage that I can find are announcements about the company from Dayton, Ohio sources which fails WP:CORP, including WP:AUD. SL93 (talk) 23:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Baloch yakjehti committee

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Questionable notability per WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Note that this appears to be a rewrite of a declined draft about the same organization by the same author: Draft:Baloch Yakjehti Committee (BYC). The same issues regarding formal tone appropriate for an encyclopedia noted as problematic in the declined draft seem to afflict this version. Geoff | Who, me? 22:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Antonina Liedtke

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She is an author of a sole short story; that story is notable (see pl:CyberJoly Drim which I just expanded; it won awards in Poland and was subject to literary criticism) - but she herself has not done anything else to merit a stand-alone article in an encyclopedia. This article should redirect to her short story article, once it is created on en wiki, per WP:NOTINHERITED, for now it could be soft-deleted by redirecting to the page about most notable award that her story got (Janusz A. Zajdel Award per WP:ATD-R. I'll add I've done extensive BEFORE while expanding article about her story on pl wiki and I cannot find anything that discusses her outside the analysis of her short story; the few biographical information we have about her come from a short bio note on a page of a publishing company she works or worked for at some point. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 21:49, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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    Comment - note that, as WP:NOTINHERITED itself points out, the "not inherited" principle explicitly does not apply to the relationship between aurhors and their works. For more on this, see WP:NAUTHOR. Newimpartial (talk) 22:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete: Gbooks has some coverage [3], but most are just names in what appear to be a directory... I don't find enough coverage to write an article with. Oaktree b (talk) 23:03, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep until the article on her story exists in en.wiki, then redirect to that article. While the story's article does not exist, our encyclopedia is the better for having this article on a notable story's author. A reader interested in winners of the Janusz A. Zajdel Award should be offered one blue link for "1999, short story* rather than two red links. PamD 08:08, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
    @PamD Template ill does the job well - one red, one blue: CyberJoly Drim [pl] Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:AUTHOR. I don't see any reason to delete the article. Yes, she is an author known only for one story. Nevertheless, she received three awards for this story, and the story itself (published in 1999) is still the subject of critical and literary analysis (see pl:CyberJoly Drim). Redirecting to Janusz A. Zajdel Award is a bad idea - the article about the award contains no information about the author, except that she received the award. --Teukros (talk) 20:10, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
If her short story is notable, but she isn't. It is best to have an article on her short story with a section on the author. Even if she wrote one book, it could be enough to make her notable. What the editors need to show is that she is notable enough with reliable sources. The awards are a good direction. I will oppose deletion if the result is to redirect to the award. In favour of a joint article on her short story and the author. O.maximov (talk) 11:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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Luca Verhoeven

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After conducting a WP:BEFORE search, it seems to me that this actor/producer does not meet either the general notability guideline or notability guideline on entertainers. DanCherek (talk) 16:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello! @DanCherek, I actually found the information on the German Wikipedia page. If you believe the article [[Luca Verhoeven]] does not meet the guidelines set by WP:GNG, you can move or delete it accordingly. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 17:20, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete: A redirect doesn't really make sense to me, someone expecting an article on Senta Berga would type in Senta Berga - not her son's name. -- D'n'B-t -- 18:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • Support: Hello! Wikipedians, I found the information on the German Wikipedia page. If you believe the article Luca Verhoeven does not meet the guidelines set by WP:GNG, you can move it or delete it accordingly.𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 20:06, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

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Cosplay Fetish Battle Drones

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A film that does not appear to pass the WP:GNG or WP:NFILM. Of the included sources, the only one that is a full length review is not from a reliable source. The rest are just small blurbs that could not really be considered a full review. Searches using both names the film was released under did not turn up any kind of coverage or reviews in reliable sources that would indicate being able to pass WP:NFILM. Rorshacma (talk) 15:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment - A lot of those sources are ones I found in my searches that I either did not consider to be reliable sources and/or not full-length reviews - many of these are just a paragraph or less, which I don't see as passing WP:NFILM's requirements of a "full-length" review. But, I would be happy for others to weigh in on whether or not they would be valid for establishing notability. Rorshacma (talk) 20:46, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
    Thank you. Regarding HorrorNews.Net, for example, it's a full review (in their style) and the site is considered reliable by the project Horror (see also two threads at the Reliable sources noticeboard, the latest one insisting that especially pre-2020 reviews (roughly; after which they seem to have accepted to make paid reviews) may be considered acceptable; and that particular review is to terribly negative that I don't suspect a minute it was not independent). Many of the other include a paragraph (significant) or less, true, but some, more (see BFI website, which I find significant). I included a few sources that are obviously not independent, to show the article can be improved/verified. I should have organised this or maybe edited the page directly, but I started here, "first to knock, first admitted". Again, thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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  • Keep as there is reliable sources coverage such as Sight & Sound and Horror News and others that combined shows a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 20:15, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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Iyke Nathan Uzorma

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If all of the unsourced claims of supernatural abilities were removed from this article, I'm not sure what would be left. Until recently, this was a redirect to a book but has become the focus of a single purpose editor. Counterfeit Purses (talk) 21:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Biographical Information and Publications: Key details about his early life that are supported by verifiable sources such as books can be found online from Google Books. Geswith (talk) 23:19, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Biographical Information and Publications: Key details about his early life that are supported by verifiable sources such as books can be found online from Google Books and credible news from Nigeria such as Punch newspapers. Geswith (talk) 23:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Anthony J. Resta discography

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The title of the article is "Anthony J. Resta discography, however very little of it is actually about anything Resta recorded himself. Instead it's a WP:COATRACK of everything he's ever been involved with in some manner, however minor the connection. I've looked this over for 40 minutes trying to think of what I could remove and keep but it's so much that I am failing at it. This discography article is almost all puffery and should be WP:TNTed and redone from scratch in an appropriate manner. Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 21:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

RIMT University

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Doesn't meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 19:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Cleanup stack

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This does not appear to meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 18:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom -1ctinus📝🗨 19:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Imre Vallyon

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I'm nominating this page for deletion again because the initial discussion lacked sufficient engagement and the sources provided were inadequate in both quality and quantity. There's a notable absence of substantial coverage of Imre Vallyon, his work, or his organisation in multiple reliable secondary sources. Meeting notability criteria typically requires presenting at least three such sources. The article from Stuff, while primarily focused on his legal issues, appears to be the only source that meets these criteria. Without it, the page is mostly information sourced by primary sources and a list of his self published books and ebooks.

In terms of Vallyon's notability as a writer, the two book reviews presented by Oaktree b in the previous discussion are clearly poor sources, as they seem to be paid content from freelance writers on unreliable websites. Additionally, Vallyon does not meet the criteria for notability as a criminal according to Wikipedia guidelines on crime perpetrators, despite the only significant coverage of him focusing on his legal issues. His organisation, FHL, does not seem to meet the notability standards either. Ynsfial (talk) 16:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep has enough to meet WP:GNG. NealeWellington (talk) 10:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
    Can you demonstrate how it has enough to meet WP:GNG?Ynsfial (talk) 15:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment for Ynsfial - it seems pointless making multiple attempts to have this article deleted as the previous Afd covered the arguments in sufficient depth. I suggest you look at the deletion review process if you consider there is an issue. NealeWellington (talk) 10:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
    No, deletion review is the wrong avenue here. It was a no consensus close, and closed over 2 months ago. It is perfectly fine to bring it back for another look. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
    Exactly. Thank you.Ynsfial (talk) 18:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • ’’’Keep’’’ He’s a convicted pedophile. Where’s the good in deleting this? Meets WP:GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E0A:E9F:8340:51A7:F4CD:CE5C:4B8B (talk) 18:30, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
    Can you demonstrate how it has enough to meet WP:GNG?Ynsfial (talk) 15:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep as thin as it is, the media coverage in New Zealand and the Netherlands establishes WP:GNG in my opinion. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 01:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. Looks like an attempt to delete the history to me. It happened before that talented people did crimes (Roman Polansky etc.) and encyclopedia must show the good and the bad. There had been "no consensus" discussion before and my position here is that the person is a notable author and notable criminal and convicted felon at the same time. Also, I see it as a strange attempt from another editor and I have COI concerns here. If the page stays, I suggest to monitor it carefully for any future attempts to delete the historical record.--Saul McGill (talk) 01:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete Lacks WP:SIGCOV in multiple RS to meet WP:GNG. I don't think the Dutch NOS article mentioned above provides significant enough coverage. I'd say awards won aren't enough for notability, but this might be worth looking into further. @Saul McGill:, I don't see how he fulfills WP:PERPETRATOR or WP:AUTHOR. He fails all the criteria for both. Mooonswimmer 01:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete: The key points to ponder include:

1. Is Vallyon notable as an author? Only a few reliable sources have covered Vallyon’s works. Thus, he is not notable under WP:GNG.

2. Is Vallyon a notable criminal? Vallyon also fails WP:PERPETRATOR. A criminal is only notable if the media in many countries have covered their crimes or if the crimes were historic or major. There has been coverage of his legal issues, but it may not be enough to meet these standards.

3. Is there reliable coverage? To strengthen the argument, we rely on you, the editors and contributors, to provide sources that can offer an in-depth study of Vallyon’s life and work or his crimes.

4. Is there community consensus? The ongoing debate and non-consensus closure of previous discussions highlight the urgency of a closer review of the sources and arguments, mainly regarding their differing viewpoints. Everyone's input is crucial in this process.

In short, the coverage does not explore his works or crimes. If the consensus favors retention due to his criminal history, the article must meet WP:BLP. It is our collective duty to ensure that it remains neutral and relies on proper sources.--AstridMitch (talk) 19:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Rajkot gaming zone fire

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Created by a sock. Significant coverage happened only when this incident took place. Since then there has been news about investigations but it does not have a lasting impact Srijanx22 (talk) 17:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep: There is a current probe into the 2024 Rajkot gaming zone fire, a major recent event. This process, coupled with the event's impact and potential long-term effects, makes it a worthy subject for a standalone article. The event's ongoing news coverage on safety implications for similar structures, keeps it relevant and of interest to the public.--AstridMitch (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
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Freedom Wall (India)

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Only coverage happened was actually from a couple of news outlets during June 2022 - August 2022. No coverage since. Fails WP:NOTNEWS. Srijanx22 (talk) 17:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete: The Freedom Wall (India) was the subject of a few brief, local news reports in 2022. It was a short blip, with no lasting importance. The topic is also not very notable and does not meet the platform's standards for inclusion. It also fails the WP:NOTNEWS guideline, which advises against articles on temporary topics.--AstridMitch (talk) 20:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
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WebPros

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This is an article about an investment company that does not meet notability. The company has one notable product in cPanel through acquisition. The sourcing in the article is what looks like a regurgitated press release, a definite press release and a link to Oakley Captial which is just their web site and no mention of WebPros. I cannot find any coverage to establish notability, only more press releases. Whpq (talk) 17:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Adam Ambra

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Ambra played 164 minutes at lower Italian club of AlbinoLeffe and does not seem to meet WP:GNG. Futbol Portal is a rumor about his potential transfer to Premier League followed by interview analysis. Zahori is an interview. SME is an interview but I can't access due to paywall. Neither of these count towards significant coverage. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 17:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Kimoa

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Nominated as WP:SIGCOV are virtually non-existent bar store pages. Sources consists of WP:PRIMARY (website and social media sites). Other third party sources center itself on Signor Alonso. WP:ATD will be a redirect into Fernando Alonso. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Togbe Osei III

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources, and many of the references presently used are non-RS, unfit for a BLP. toweli (talk) 17:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Kingo Root

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Same as previous AfD (Possibly malware, few and unreliable sources, written somewhat like an ad) – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) (ping me!) 16:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Zhu Zhigeng

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WP:NOTGENEALOGY. No significant coverage in reliable sources. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to Prince of Qin (Ming dynasty), where he already has a blurb that substantially if not fully includes all the information currently in the article. This fella has no biography in Dictionary of Ming biography, 1368–1644, vol. 1 (he'd be around p. 294), nor indeed in 明史, where he is allotted a measly thirteen graphs (in 卷116), stating he succeeded to the Principality of Qin and died without heirs in Yongle 22. It's never a great sign when the sole source of an article is a Shilu, which are primary sources. There may be other specialist sources somewhere ("秦僖王" "永樂" might be my search strings if I were to look for some, which I'm far too tired to do at the moment). I'm not especially hopeful about the existence of more sources. Folly Mox (talk) 22:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Gerald D'Mello

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I'm not seeing enough WP:SIGCOV for this goalkeeper that only played in 3 professional games. While searching for Gerald/Gerard D'Mello, I found Deccan Herald, Herald Goa, Navhind Times and Telegraph India, all of which are passing mentions. If this article is kept, we should consider moving it to 'Gerard D'Mello' as this seems to be a more popular spelling. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Problem management

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fails general notability guideline. ltbdl (talk) 16:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Julian Gjinaj

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Potentially fails WP:GNG here. I have searched Albanian sources and found nothing better than Panorama, a passing mention about a disciplinary issue. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:33, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Denny Draper

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Only secondary sources in the article and found during WP:BEFORE check are match reports with surface level coverage of the subject. AlexandraAVX (talk) 16:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Gogui, Mauritania

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I couldn't find sources to confirm its existence. I found information on a town of this name in Mali, near Mauritania, but we shouldn't keep this if we can't verify it. Boleyn (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

El Verea

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I couldn't find sources to add to show it exists. Boleyn (talk) 15:56, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Kouroudel

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I couldn't find sources to confirm it exists. Refs in other language WP articles didn't lead anywhere. Boleyn (talk) 15:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Canadian Journalism Project

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I couldn't establish that it meets WP:ORG / WP:GNG. There are the different universities as possible WP:ATDs, but none of them are obvious targets. Boleyn (talk) 15:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Kelman's source characteristics

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:N or have a good WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 15:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Eric Sink

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A WP:BEFORE search failed to find any significant coverage of this biography article to meet WP:NBASIC. The most I could find were blog reviews of his books and interviews, which fail the threshold of significant independent sourcing. -1ctinus📝🗨 15:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Consulate-General of Iran, Dubai

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Embassies are not inherently notable, consulates even less so. This one fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 14:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Gunnar Malmqvist

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 14:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Version Control by Example

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Found this while looking through orphans. A WP:BEFORE Fails to come up with any reviews or charts besides programming blogs. Even reviews linked on the author's website lacks anything for WP:NBOOK. -1ctinus📝🗨 14:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 17:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Techno Squirrels

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As much as it pains me to nominate my electronic rodent brethren (lol) for deletion, I was unable to find any sources other than the one I added yesterday while searching — it also does not provide significant coverage of the subject. The band fails the notability guideline for musicians. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:00, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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@Star Mississippi: Seems like we're good for a soft deletion here? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 14:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
personally thought an 18 year old article deserved a relist but no objection to a SOFT deletion. Want me to close @TechnoSquirrel69? Star Mississippi 14:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
I just thought you'd missed that there were no objections and figured it would save some time. If you'd prefer to see some discussion, however, I have no problem leaving it open a bit longer. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Delete I also wasn't able to find any significant coverage. toweli (talk) 16:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
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List of French films of 2026

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Two WP:TOOSOON lists of entirely redlinked films by presumed future release dates, referenced entirely to subscriber-locked directory entries in an internal industry "films in the production pipeline" database rather than reliable sources. To be fair, the United States does already have lists for both of these years, so I can't argue that we never let lists of films exist this far into the future -- but the US lists comprise films that (a) already have Wikipedia articles to link to under WP:NFF provisions, and (b) already have WP:GNG-worthy sources present to support the presumed release dates, neither of which are on offer here.
These can both be recreated in 2025, 2026 or 2027 when there's reliable sourcing to support listing bluelinked films, but we don't already need either of them now if they're only using primary sources to support red links. Bearcat (talk) 14:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to such a thing in theory, but inclusion in it would still have to be supported by reliable sources — so none of the films here could even be merged into it in the first place without better sourcing for them than was used here. (I'm also already on the record as being opposed to even organizing "List of Country films of YYYY" lists by release date instead of by title anyway, as that causes problems like festival-premiering films being unable to get listed at all until a commercial release date is known when they should be listable the very moment any film festival announces its program, but that's not the central issue here since the films aren't properly sourced regardless of whether the list were organized by release date or film title.) Bearcat (talk) 14:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete. It's too soon for any of the individual films to have an article and too soon to have a list of them. Mgp28 (talk) 17:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Nonsense. As the person who nominated these two pages for deletion admitted themselves, there are already equivalent pages for American films. Moreover, the unnecessary concern for more sources has been addressed. Happy Evil Dude (talk) 14:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep Good grief, the "delete everything" crowd on Wikipedia is so exhausting. Do you know how long it takes to put these together? Nominated for deletion minutes after the page was created! As it stands, both of the pages are already greatly expanded and no longer the same pages that they were when Bearcat wanted to delete them, and all the "concerns" have been addressed. Thus:
    • As noted by the person who wants to delete the film, SUCH PAGES ALREADY EXIST FOR AMERICAN FILMS. There is no reason whatsoever why equivalent pages for French films should not be allowed.
    • I had initially included one source per film as it is how these lists are typically formatted. However faced with the ridiculous request for more sources, I have pointlessly spent four times as much time to quadruple the number of references per title. This was the main concern and it is remedied. These titles are now better sourced then any other film list on Wikipedia.
    • The "fact" that the lists of 2026 & 2027 American films are only comprised of "bluelinked" titles is false. They are either bluelinked to something else or not linked at all. Some contributors on Wikipedia are misguided and just hate seeing red links. There is absolutely nothing wrong with red links on a page. Red links are not a bad thing. They are a signal that something that should have an article doesn't yet, and an invitation to a contributor to create that article
    Happy Evil Dude (talk) 14:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. The fact that lists exist for both 2026 and 2027 in the United States does not automatically slamdunk the need for these, as it's entirely possible that the American lists shouldn't exist either, and Wikipedia lists do have to be lists of bluelinked things, not lists of redlinked things, to become justifiable. Bearcat (talk) 19:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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Seneb-Neb-Af

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I can only find sources and content unduly taking about mastaba. If there should be ATD, then redirect. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Claudio Fernando de Aguiar

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Promotional also. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

What can be, unburdened by what has been

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This phrase has no significance separable from Kamala Harris#Public image. It is mentioned by some reliable sources, but the articles are not actually about this particular phrase, they are about her public image/memes in general. A redirect or merge would be more appropriate. —Ganesha811 (talk) 12:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  • (NOTE: I have now created such an article). —Ganesha811 (talk) 22:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep - I don’t see what the issue with it is. We have Thanks, Obama for instance, as well as articles for other standalone, culturally relevant and notable quotes from public figures (We begin bombing in five minutes, Let’s Go Brandon (not a quote but still a noteworthy meme)). — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 13:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    The difference with Thanks, Obama and this is the level they were embraced. "Thanks, Obama" was not only an internet meme for several months, but also embraced by Obama and his administration. This article references something Harris has said only once and barely acknowledged by anyone other than Twitter users. Kelavandoril (talk) 15:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    She has not said it only once. What can be, unburdened by what has been is practically one of Harris’ catchphrases. Please get some additional context regarding this quote from the article, its sources and other online resources. — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 15:09, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete or redirect - all the sources in the article have a passing mention of this meme, not significant enough coverage to support its own article. Yeoutie (talk) 18:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete Does an encyclopaedia really need a new article for every quote from American presidential candidates? Isn't this all getting a bit ridiculous? I despair at the direction of this project. AusLondonder (talk) 21:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign endorsements

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This list is just getting bigger and bigger. It appears to violet "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of facts". Georgia guy (talk) 12:17, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Remaking my argument as the last one didn't make sense. Keep as I believe that the vast majority of these people and sources meet WP:Endorse. This article does not have a major problem (anymore) with WP:Twitter and I would argue that the editors have done a good job with keeping up on finding better sources. I don't see what argument could be made in favor of "significant" secondary sources as that in my opinion is subjective and I can see that leading to a significant amount of reversion of edits due to "this individual/organization is not significant enough". If someone can make an argument in terms of a framework to determine significant coverage I'd be open but we shouldn't delete the entire article because there's some bad apples. Flames675 (talk) 12:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    Adding my support for Speedy Close as there is so far no dissent and also WP:Snowball Flames675 (talk) 22:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep Endorsements should be extremely publicized and wikipedia is a great medium to assure public information with reliable sources. If there is a Wikipedia page about a certain figure and if that person endorses publicly, then that information should be made available in this page. I hope that this endorsement page lives until the election (as I hope that Donald Trump's one subsistes too). 88.157.166.6 (talk) 15:56, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Comment - For good measure you should place an AfD for List of Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign endorsements as well, let’s see how well it will go for you. Bohbye (talk) 17:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Keep This is common on Wikipedia at this point, it is backed by reliable sources, and it serves use to voters and future political analysts. Also speedy close per WP:SNOW. ~Politicdude (About me, talk, contribs) 21:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose and speedy close. I don't see why this deletion nomination was ever brought up in the first place. Other pages exist for List of Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign endorsements, a List of Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign political endorsements, and a 2024 version for both of them, and they're all equally long. We have pages going back several election cycles solely for endorsement purposes, and it's common practice to list notable endorsements on literally every single federal and state campaign if there's enough notable individuals. The whole reason there's a whole page for president is because it would take up too much room on the main page. There is quite literally no argument in favor of this.Flames675 (talk) 12:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

In fact I would argue that this page is one of the shortest I've seen, considering the 2020 page for Biden has literal sub-pages for its categories and that has never been a subject for deletion. Flames675 (talk) 12:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Please note that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument in favour either. U-Mos (talk) 12:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Kenny Ingalls

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Bangladesh Quota Reform Movement and the Rise of Violence

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AI-generated, largely unsourced duplicate of 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement. Parts that are cited appear to have had their citations tacked on after the fact, so verifiability is pretty doubtful. Not suitable for WP:BLAR as the editorializing title is not a reasonable redirect. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Delete. A less edited version of the article 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement. WhyIsNameSoHardOmg- - (talk) 12:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Comparison of OpenGL and Direct3D

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The 2006 AfD nomination calling this original research was obviously correct on the merits. Unlike other comparison articles, for which there is often good sourcing (as niche publications may have deep dives within a topic area), this only compares two products, almost exclusively with primary sources that only mention one of the products. Mach61 11:29, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

List of tallest buildings in Lucknow

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Fails WP:NLIST. None of the mentioned buildings are notable by itself and aren't fulfilling GNG. No SIGCOV for the list article alone. Also, WP:NOTDIR. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Ella Baff

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Nothing that would qualify under the general notability guideline. Lots of problems with inadequate sourcing and WP:NOR. GuardianH (talk) 07:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep Has a lot of sources, and 3 or 4 of those sources passes the WP:DEPTH requirement, seems pretty notable if you ask me.
Ferdinand Marcos's dead (and weird) soul (talk) 07:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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  • Delete: A program officer for arts and culture is simply an office job inside the foundation, nothing notable that gets you an article. Sourcing is a mix of PR items and confirmation of appointments to various positions, none of which are notable. Oaktree b (talk) 21:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
    She is better known for her work as the executive and artistic director of the Jacob's Pillow dance festival, than for what she did while working at the Mellon Foundation. I am adding in details now. DaffodilOcean (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
    @Oaktree b - I invite you to re-consider the article now that I have made multiple additions and shifted the focus to make it clear that her primary impact is at Jacob's Pillow DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:02, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: New sources are more about Jacob's Pillow, not about this person. Not really helping prove notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:14, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
    Comment: For others to consider, I think the top three sources about Baff are these (selected because of the extended coverage that spans multiple years):[1][2][3]. I further think that she meets WP:CREATIVE for her work with Jacob's Pillow (criteria #4, which in part says "The person's work (or works) has: ... (c) won significant critical attention ..." That being said. I look forward to hearing what others think. DaffodilOcean (talk) 15:11, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Gere, David (1988-01-03). "Baff: Cal Performances point woman for dance". Oakland Tribune. p. 72. Retrieved 2024-07-13.
  2. ^ Gordon, Ronni (1998-04-19). "No rest for new head of Jacob's Pillow". The Republican. pp. [1], [2]. Retrieved 2024-07-13.
  3. ^ "After 17 Years of Devotion, Ella Baff Exits Jacob's Pillow". HuffPost. 2015-08-20. Retrieved 2024-07-12.

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Dafa 420

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NTV. M S Hassan (talk | contributions) 08:19, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

P-GRADE Portal

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The article lacks of WP:GNG, since it is a project of cloud infrastructure in grid computing with little overall impact and very few available sources, mostly self-published sources of the authors of this project. It seems there are a few other project-related articles that are related to the Institute for Computer Science and Control (SZTAKI) of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences that seem to lack considerably WP:GNG as well. Recently, other related articles have been already deleted: [12] and [13]. The targetted articles, like this nomination, GUSE, and the deleted article of MTA SZTAKI Laboratory of Parallel and Distributed Systems, were all created by the same user many years ago. Chiserc (talk) 07:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

GUSE

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The article lacks of WP:GNG, since it is a project of cloud infrastructure with little overall impact. It seems there are a few other project-related articles that are related to the Institute for Computer Science and Control (SZTAKI) of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences that seem to lack considerably WP:GNG as well. Recently, other related articles have been already deleted: [14], and [15]. Chiserc (talk) 07:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Zachary David

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Per WP:DEL#8: Doesn't meet GNG, WP:NSPORTS or WP:NMOTORSPORT. Nobody (talk) 07:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

hi. how can we edit this to meet requirements? Thanks Zach David (talk) 15:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete clearly non-notable, and obvious conflict of interest doesn't help. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:56, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Edgar Chibaka

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should be deleted due to the lack of significant independent coverage that meets the General Notability Guideline (GNG), relying instead on primary sources, company related news and not significant mentions. LusikSnusik (talk) 10:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep or redirect: to Nyasa Times, the company that the subject found. Subject has enough WP:GNG. For example here reported by the Telegraph, subject won the Black British Business Person of the Year award in 2021. I also found this where subject is being the founder and the Chief Executive Officer of Malawi's leading online publication, the Nyasa Times that he found in 2006. This could be used to sustain the article per (WP:NEXIST). --Tumbuka Arch (talk) 13:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Delete interviews are a poor way to establish notability and if he owns the Nyasa Times then it isn't independent enough to establish notability. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:42, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
@Traumnovelle Alternatively, it makes sense to redirect it to their company on Wikipedia that the subject found, thus Nyasa Times. Again, not all sources are interviews. Furthermore, this AfD was made by someone at random who was even reported at ANI here and there is even a discussion on their talk page about their nominations. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 07:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
I don't oppose a redirect. I looked at the references now. I presumed the sources you mentioned were the strongest sources. The strongest source appears to be the Yorkshire Evening Post but it isn't enough for notability in my opinion. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

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Chickenpox (South Park)

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Only two sources, which do not appear to qualify as SIGCOV. There does not seem to be a justification based on notability as on why this episode should have a separate article (i.e. it could also be redirected to South Park (season 2). Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 05:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

List of presidential visits to North Dakota

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This appears to be the only such list of trips made by the US president to a specific state. Cannot see how it meets the criteria at WP:NLIST. AusLondonder (talk) 05:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

ESNA European Higher Education News

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Nominated on pl wiki for deletion as spam with possible hoax elements (pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2024:07:17:ESNA European Higher Education News). It also seems to fail WP:NORG/WP:GNG. My BEFORE finds next to zero visiblity for this entity in GS/GB. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Withdrawal of Joe Biden from the 2024 United States presidential election

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Not news, too soon, presentism, WP:NOPAGE might sum it up. Qwirkle (talk) 04:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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Philippa Hobbs

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Created by a single purpose editor. Google news comes up with a different person, and google books comes up with 1 line mentions of this person. Fails WP:ARTIST. LibStar (talk) 04:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep. This is a WP:NPROF/WP:NAUTHOR pass. With Elizabeth Rankin, she has been a prominent curator/art historian in post-apartheid South Africa. For an example, one of the book reviews I've added to the article says It is not the first time that they have paired up to write the definitive book on aspects of South African art and artists - that is, the books Hobbs has written are known as the "definitive work" on the subject. I'm confident there will also be biographical information on her available in South African newspapers. -- asilvering (talk) 04:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    Do you have actual sources? LibStar (talk) 05:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    You mean like the ones I said I added to the article? That I added to the article? -- asilvering (talk) 05:24, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    Apologies. I will check out the sources you've added. LibStar (talk) 06:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Mark Carlson (speedway rider)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, only primary sources provided. Nothing found when searching ["Mark Carlson" speedway] LibStar (talk) 03:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Bosphorus Development

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Promotional article for a company that fails WP:NCORP. All sources are WP:ORGTRIV (routine coverage of market entries, financing, awards, etc.), WP:PRIMARYSOURCES (interviews, self-published materials), or otherwise unreliable sources. WP:BEFORE search turned up nothing validating notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom ~Politicdude (About me, talk, contribs) 18:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep as the minimal sources for establishing notablity are present and company is operating in two countries and is behind the biggest buildings in Turkey (Istanbul Tower 205, Istanbul aquarium) etc.--RodrigoIPacce (talk) 10:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
    Obviously we don't agree about the availability of WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS -- can you share your WP:THREE best sources for other editors to evaluate? (Notability is not WP:INHERITED from buildings this company may have been involved with.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak keep lean towards keep per WP NEXIST (Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article). The company had various names throughout its history, and it was mentioned in Turkish newspapers with no digital copies. I will try to add what I can find. 78.177.93.54 (talk) 08:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC) — 78.177.93.54 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
    Mentions of the company are not sufficient, WP:NCORP mandates significant coverage. Janhrach (talk) 09:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete: Per points above. The article was created by a blocked sock, and other substantial edits were mostly done by IPs. Aintabli (talk) 08:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep added not digital good sourcing from Turkish media. It’s quite large construction company (having built Istanbul Tower 205). It seems to meet notability criteria. Dirubii Olchoglu (talk) 08:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
    @Dirubii Olchoglu: The ConstructionNews URL you added to the article is dead and has never been archived by Wayback Machine, and constructionnews.com does not even seem like a website publishing articles. The book (curiously written by "J. Doe") doesn't seem to exist under this title, and the ISBN belongs to an edition of The Logic of Scientific Discovery. Could you clarify this situation? Janhrach (talk) 11:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
    @Dirubii Olchoglu Even if the Construction News article was accessible to us, it wouldn't count toward notability as a WP:TRADES publication. Regardless of its size or the projects it worked on, the company needs to demonstrate WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS; notability isn't WP:INHERITED from projects it was involved in. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep the sources are kind of/minimum sufficient. The 100 years company is highly likely notable and has sources per NEXIST. It also should be rewritten to avoid any promo. --Loewstisch (talk) 10:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment. Keep !votes have asserted that minimal sources are present, but none have presented the sources they say meet the criteria. I have conducted the following source analysis and I do not see a single source that solidly passes the bar of WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS per WP:ORGCRIT. If there are more sources out there (and I didn't find any), "keep" !voters need to present them, not just assert they exist. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Source assessment table: prepared by User:Dclemens1971
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://biz.liga.net/all/all/press-release/turetskiy-developer-bosphorus-development-vyhodit-na-ukrainskiy-rynok-nedvijimosti No Press release No Self-published source Yes The source discusses the subject directly and in detail ✘ No
https://mind.ua/openmind/20234520-zakordonnij-dosvid-yak-tureckij-developer-osvoyue-ukrayinskij-rinok No Authored by the chairman of Bosphorus Development Yes Yes The source discusses the subject directly and in detail ✘ No
https://archive.kyivpost.com/business-wire/new-international-development-sector-player-enters-ukraine.html No Authored by the chairman of Bosphorus Development Yes Yes The source discusses the subject directly and in detail ✘ No
https://interfax.com.ua/news/interview/786357.html No As a WP:INTERVIEW, this is a primary source Yes Yes The source discusses the subject directly and in detail ✘ No
https://globaldesignnews.com/renzo-pianos-istanbul-modern-is-inspired-by-the-bosphorus-waters-its-reflections-of-sunlight-and-its-locations-heritage/ Yes Yes No The source does not even mention the subject. ✘ No
https://forbes.ua/ru/company/bosphorus-development-yak-providniy-turetskiy-developer-vikhodit-na-ukrainskiy-rinok-nerukhomosti-20122021-3011 Yes Yes No The source only includes a WP:TRIVIALMENTION of Bosphorus Development / Босфорус Девелопмент ✘ No
https://emlakkulisi.com.tr/ece-turkiye-aqua-floryanin-kiralama-faaliyetlerini-ustlendi/372671 No Apparent WP:TRADES publication Yes No The source does not even mention the subject. ✘ No
https://www.hurriyet.com.tr/haberleri/aqua-florya-avm Yes Yes No The source does not even mention the subject. ✘ No
https://expatguideturkey.com/top-10-highest-buildings-in-turkey/ ~ No Blog No The source does not even mention the subject. ✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20230726120751/http://bunews.com.ua/interviews/item/leading-turkish-developer-enters-the-expanding-ukrainian-real-estate-market ~ An interview-based article ~ Possibly excluded as a WP:TRADES publication ~ The source discusses the subject in detail but mostly about a market entry, a subject excluded as SIGCOV under WP:ORGTRIV ~ Partial
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Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ekonomi/gayrimenkulde-2016nin-yildizlari-40274467 Yes Yes No The source does not even mention the subject. ✘ No
https://www.ekoyapidergisi.org/istanbul-tower-205-e-european-property-awards-dan-2-odul ~ ~ No The source does not even mention the subject. ✘ No
https://www.aksam.com.tr/yasam/istanbul-tower-205e-european-property-awardsdan-2-odul/haber-773563 Yes Yes No The source does not even mention the subject. ✘ No
https://www.propertyturkey.com/news/istanbuls-second-tallest-building-sold-for-594-million-usd Yes No WP:BLOG No The source does not even mention the subject. ✘ No
https://thepage.ua/real-estate/tureckaya-kompaniya-ne-razglashaet-lokaciyu-svoih-zhk-v-centre-kieva-do-nachala-stroitelnyh-rabot Yes Yes No News about new location openings/market entries is not WP:SIGCOV per WP:ORGTRIV. ✘ No
https://emerging-europe.com/business/no-time-to-wait-ukraines-reconstruction-begins-now/ Yes An interview-based article Yes No A trivial mention as part of a broader story ✘ No
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-release/910561.html Yes Yes No A single trivial mention as part of a broader story ✘ No
http://stroyobzor.ua/ru/kiev/news-builders/start-prodazhu-kvartir-v-zhk-biznes-klasu-maxima-residence-na-pechersku ? ? ? Unable to access, blocked as a malicious website. ? Unknown
https://www.ukrhaber.com/blog/bir-turk-sirketi-ukrayna-emlak-piyasasina-giriyor-ilk-projesi-kievde-bir-konut-kompleksi/ Yes No Blog No News about new location openings/market entries is not WP:SIGCOV per WP:ORGTRIV. ✘ No
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Ju Song-il

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 02:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Henry Long (speedway rider)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, only primary sources provided. Nothing found when searching ["Henry Long " speedway] LibStar (talk) 03:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Red Ink Awards

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Non-notable award. References are all announcements of winners and the majority are unreliable, falling under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. A WP:BEFORE was unable to locate significant coverage that talks about the reward itself. CNMall41 (talk) 03:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

ZipZoomfly

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I initially WP:PRODed this with the following rationale "Non-notable, defunct retailer. None of the current sources are actual coverage of the company in reliable sources, merely being things such as database listing or user generated content like reviews. Searching for sources under both the "ZipZoomfly" and "Googlegear" names did not turn up any coverage in reliable sources." An IP user contacted me on my Talk page requesting to contest the PROD with this rationale: "ZipZoomFly.com aka GoogleGear.com was an important part of early internet history and a popular place to shop before newegg was founded. The lawsuit between them and google.com (alphabet) was a noteworthy case of parody vs trademark. The page is worth keeping because their are lessons to be learned from it's downfall." I don't agree that reasoning is sufficient to address the sourcing issues that keep this company from passing the WP:GNG and WP:NCORP, but since the PROD was contested, I am moving it to AFD for discussion instead. Rorshacma (talk) 20:53, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I generally agree with IP. The suit with Google over the naming was notable at the time, and as a computer retailer, they were well and widely known during their heyday - for example, on Anandtech, they were listed in price comparisons against NewEgg, TigerDirect, and Buy.com.[1] In the grander scheme of things, they were just an early online PC component retailer, but as a bit of early online history, they are modestly notable. I'd vote to keep it, but per notability guidelines I'm uncertain enough to say that we need more eyeballs on it to assess.
I've updated and replaced a number of of the sources, just to conform better w/policy and guidelines. Regrettably, I could find no mention of their demise from reliable sources; only many comments within PC-focused forums at the time, which of course are not considered reliable. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 21:50, 18 July 2024 (UTC) cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 21:50, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete. Although I sympathize with the IP's and anastrophe's desire to keep early internet history, this company isn't notable. BEFORE didn't show any RS. Of the current references:
  • 1 is paywalled, let's give it the benefit of the doubt and say it's a good reference.
  • 2 is the Google suit, a primary document, fails RS
  • 3, 4, 8, 9 are the company's own website, fails IS
  • 5, 6 are user-generated reviews, fails RS
  • 7 is simply a business listing, fails RS/SIGCOV
  • anastrophe's find is a listing of comparable products from different retailers
I see no sources that meet GNG or NORG. Even if reference #1 is acceptable, that's not enough to establish notability. StartGrammarTime (talk) 16:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
All perfectly legitimate arguments, and sorry for the paywall, didn't realize at the time. The WSJ article is a good, in-depth look at the company, with the president of the company quoted several times, and their efforts to keep customers engaged in the face of growing competition detailed. Here's a 'gift' link to the article for review if interested.[2]
But, a single article in a genuinely reliable sources isn't enough. The (lack of a) preponderance of evidence in reliable sources establishing notability is prima facie. No objection to deletion (with a wee tear in my eye, heh). cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 20:12, 20 July 2024 (UTC) cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 20:12, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
...And I'm not entirely certain of the propriety of sharing that 'gift' link here. By all means, let me know and I'll delete it if it's problematic. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 20:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Honestly, I was really hoping to find some great sources because the early internet (in all its Comic Sans, under-construction-gif, clashing color glory) was a magical place and preserving as much history as possible is fantastic. Let the children see what we had to do to simply visit a website, and we shall not speak of the trials of downloads! If there had been enough sources I would have been an enthusiastic keep, but alas... StartGrammarTime (talk) 03:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/2689?cPage=4&all=False&sort=0&page=1&slug=
  2. ^ https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB118772414008204352?st=gzpd9k9fxg7z69n&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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  • weak keep: Coverage here [19] and the website is talked about here [20]. These and the Wall Street Journal should be just enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 03:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Yorktel

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Lack of notability established with WP:RS Amigao (talk) 03:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Kim Yu-song (footballer, born 2003)

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 02:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  • If he has played for the North Korean national team at the Asian Games, he does appear to be notable enough. 93.117.220.196 (talk) 10:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    The article has been nominated for deletion on the basis that it fails WP:GNG. This does not relate to appearances for the national team. Simione001 (talk) 13:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    According to WP:FOOTYN, "players are deemed notable if they (...) Have played FIFA recognised senior international football". This covers playing for the national team of North Korea. 93.117.220.196 (talk) 15:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
FOOTYN itself states The player section of this notability guidance has been superseded by WP:Notability (sports), and is included below for information only as a record of the previous guidance that the Footy project came up with. The correct guideline is WP:SPORTCRIT, which makes no mention of playing for a national football team. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
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  • Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 17:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Ke Seung-woon

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Article fails WP:GNG. Redirect to 1966 World Cup team. Simione001 (talk) 02:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Kang Sun-il

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 02:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Sigma Pi, Mu Chapter

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No notability shown, no unrelated refs showing notability Naraht (talk) 02:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Familial relationships of Errol Musk

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Errol Musk is not in any way notable independent of his relation to Elon Musk. He ran for public office, but was never elected, but was only elected once to a local city council, he was an engineer, but didn't do anything of note. There is nothing about him is notable other than that he was the father of Elon Musk. Ergzay (talk) 01:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

He ran for public office, but was never elected That's actually not correct, he was elected in '72 and served until the 80s. His 1983 resignation was front page news. Feoffer (talk) 05:20, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Ah I missed that, but that was a local city council. None of the people in my city council have wikipedia pages. Ergzay (talk) 06:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Well he wasn't "just any" councilman, he was a vocally anti-apartheid English-speaking South African politician in 1972 Pretoria! Per Isaacson and many others, that's actually a really big deal in his time and place, but damned if I can find really good English-language sourcing which actually deep-dives into that part of his life story. Feoffer (talk) 11:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
It could be great if there is a comparison on how vocal he was compared to the famous Helen Suzman. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 13:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Is there a wikipedia page on even the contents of that 1972 city council? Did that 1972 city council do anything of note? Ergzay (talk) 00:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete: Errol Musk does not meet the notability guidelines despite his connection with Elon Musk. His career achievements and political work are not notable on their own. His main claim to fame is that he is the father of Elon Musk. It's crucial to adhere to WP:BLP, and keeping a separate article about only Musk's family does not meet these standards.--AstridMitch (talk) 02:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep*: He is an antiracist fighter AND elected representative AND father of Elon Musk - this 3 together is enough for a wikipedia page. 2A00:1110:143:1160:D1BF:A9E6:C3C3:862D (talk) 10:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete. Ridiculous to have an article about someone's "familial relationships" without giving him his own article. Astaire (talk) 02:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
    Well, it's like when we do "Death of so-and-so" for notable deaths. It's a reminder to readers that the current article doesn't (yet) cover Errol's political career in the depth required of a true BLP. Feoffer (talk) 05:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
    A familial relationships article for Elon Musk would be more sane, in which case Errol Musk could be mentioned there, though I'd think it should still be just part of the Elon Musk article. Ergzay (talk) 06:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
    Well that's an excellent point. I definitely think of it as a Elon sub-article: we don't need to litigate emerald mines and spousal abuse and false claims of funding or abandonment on Elon's literal BLP. Feoffer (talk) 06:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
    I don't understand what you mean by "Elon sub-article". If it's not valuable enough to put on the page on Elon Musk then it's probably not valuable enough to put on any page on Wikipedia. I'm not sure on this last point, but I think "biography of living persons" policies apply even if it's a spin-off of the main article. That's not a loophole of the rule. Ergzay (talk) 00:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
    From WP:BLP:

    BLP applies to all material about living persons anywhere on Wikipedia, including talk pages, edit summaries, user pages, images, categories, lists, article titles and drafts.

    Ergzay (talk) 00:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
    BLP absolutely applies to ALL articles, I just meant we shouldn't be covering a notable abuser on one of their victim's biographical articles. Feoffer (talk) 14:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep as creator. GNG is met, he's been covered extensively in the press and in-depth in at least two different books. Ultimately, it's not fair to Maye Musk or Elon Musk to document Errol's extensive controversial public behavior on those articles, but neither is it fair to them for us simply to delete that verified information from the project. I haven't found fulltext access, but Afrikaans newspaper archive searches and the Isaacson book show Errol was a VERY notable person during his political career, long before Elon was an adult. Errol has a second claim to notability for his allegedly abusive relationships with Maye and Elon. Finally, Errol again became controversial for a marriage to a former stepdaughter (cf Soon-Yi Previn). Feoffer (talk) 04:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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Delete. Even if this was notable, having it as a "familial relationships of" article makes 0 sense when it is basically a biography of him (focusing on his relationships because that's all the sources talk about!)
The only thing here that's not directly related to, or from publications about, Elon or his ex wife is the "having a child with his stepdaughter" thing which is not enough to have an article on PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Your words carry lots of weight with me. Are you saying we should just move this content into a BLP titled Errol Musk? And if not, do you have an opinion on where we SHOULD cover what is known about Errol? We've got 4 different BLPs from folks reliably alleging abuse at Errol's hands. I know @Ergzay: expressed a preference for covering it at Elon's BLP, but it seems unfair to me to single out one victim like that, when it's a multidecade pattern of abuse that pre- and post- dated Elons interactions. Errol's later promotion of conspiracy theories and admission of fathering multiple children with a stepchild obviously lend credence to their prior allegations. Feoffer (talk) 10:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Yes, if there's to be something here, it should be a BLP. The content in this article is basically a BLP already. I believe there was already an AfD for the initial Errol Musk article though.
An alternative could be some sort of... Musk family article? I mean, his family's certainly discussed and he's certainly not the only notable member. Singling out his dad, who does not have his own article, for an article to be based around, doesn't make much sense. But if it's notable as part of his whole family then maybe, idk.
I'm not sure if either of these ideas are good, though, or if either is notable. Your point about his political career making him notable is a possibility but until sigcov related to that is presented the jury's still out. Not impossible though. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much for this feedback.
I probably should have said somewhere that this article was created to hold content removed in Musk family (which was deleted on June 1) which had been merged from Errol Musk (merged into Musk Family in Sept 2023). I concur that a full BLP should wait for the South African source, but in the mean time, the victims really do deserve for it to be SOMEWHERE in Wikipedia.(/?) Feoffer (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not in the business of deciding what people "deserve". Please read WP:RGW. Astaire (talk) 12:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Lol fair enough, I'm not on a crusade. but it's still verifiable content with exculpatory BLP implications for Elon and Maye. Feoffer (talk) 12:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Some of this content may belong somewhere on Wikipedia, but the current article is too flawed to stand. If it is really about "familial relationships", why does it discuss his business career, his election to city council and his game lodge? Why should anyone care that Errol claimed that Elon upgraded his home security system? Astaire (talk) 13:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Why should anyone care that Errol claimed that Elon upgraded his home security system?
Because it contradicts the false claims in media (sourced to Errol) of Elon's supposed abandonment of a disabled parent. Feoffer (talk) 13:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Including that content with that justification is a WP:OR issue, unless reliable sources explicitly note the contradiction themselves. Astaire (talk) 13:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Well, any answer to your question about "why should anyone care" would be OR to put in article unless it was explicitly noted in RS. Feoffer (talk) 08:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Draftify Weird article. Creator claims that there is more coverage of him out there, so I don't think a full delete is warranted. Either way, the article is not ready for mainspace. If the consensus ends up being to delete, that would be fine by me. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 06:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Draftify or Delete I'm the one who submitted this, but I'm fine with either option. It doesn't make sense to have it as an article though. I'm not sure what moving it to a Draft could fix though. Ergzay (talk) 06:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
    I interpret draftify calls as me having jumped the gun by publishing it in mainspace before we got access to the sources on political career needed to make a full balanced BLP. I get it's an unorthodox title, but it's also a little bit of a blpvio to not document Errol's verifiably-checkered past somewhere, given his public attacks on family. I don't feel good about stuffing it all into the BLP of one of his victims. Feoffer (talk) 11:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
    The title is probably the biggest problem. Having an articles about the familial relationships of someone without having an article on the person themselves is a bit ridiculous. But there's lots of other issues beyond that, even if the page was moved, like the noteworthiness of the man himself and of anything he thinks beyond it's relation to Elon Musk. Ergzay (talk) 00:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Draftify Plenty of notable source material for an article about the man more so than his "relations", especially since Musk Family got effectively yeeted. QRep2020 (talk) 16:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep and rename as Errol Musk - Numerous sources discuss his own life, so that his bio would easily pass GNG. Surely his son's fame directed attention to him, just like Maye Musk, Kimbal Musk and Tosca Musk; we've got plenty of coverage for those individuals as well, who arguably wouldn't be notably featured in the press if Elon's life hadn't attracted so much scrutiny. Ironic that notability is not inherited, though in this case the hyper-notability of one person did engender notability of various family members... — JFG talk 10:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • Draftify with instructions to either make the article titled Errol Musk, or Family of Elon Musk. Walsh90210 (talk) 17:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
    • I'm also fine with keeping this at Errol Musk, and either splitting the "family" material to a new article, or removing it. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
      • AFD is a blunt tool. We can't close a discussion with editing instructions. That's left to editors if the article is Kept. Liz Read! Talk! 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
        • This isn't a notable topic, but some of the content could be saved for a different topic. The only "blunt" option available is to draftify it until that tension is resolved. Walsh90210 (talk) 14:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep and move to Errol Musk. I think there is probably enough written about him in RS to satisfy WP:GNG. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 21:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Again, Moving is an editorial act that will be discussed if an article is Kept. Liz Read! Talk! 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
      AFDs end with consensus to Merge all the time. Feoffer (talk) 11:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
      • Feoffer, I know this, I close a lot of AFD discussions. The editor did not say Merge they said Move and that's what I Was responding to. Liz Read! Talk! 02:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Relisting this discussion as there is still no consensus. Of interest, is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Musk family (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Errol Musk. I don't think that this article can be moved to Errol Musk as that page has an extensive page history that shouldn't be deleted, there could be issues with attribution.
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International Franchise Association

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Article was previously deleted in 2013 after an AfD. Recreated in 2020. I don't see any reason to dispute the result of that AfD; there is still little in-depth coverage cited on this page. Outside of the Supreme Court case (which appears to have been sparsely covered), the only coverage is a few mentions from minor trade publications. I tried looking for more on Google, but all I could find were press releases. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 02:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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List of games televised on ESPN Saturday Primetime

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List of games televised on ESPN Saturday Primetime (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm not finding any sources discussing these games as a group, which are only connected by a single television package. As such, WP:LISTN is not met. Let'srun (talk) 01:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom; I searched and could not find any independent reliable sources offering significant coverage of this list as a group or set. Left guide (talk) 04:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. fails WP:NLIST due to no SIGCOV of articles as a group. Frank Anchor 19:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Zaine Kennedy

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Almost all the sourcing is not third party but speedway related. LibStar (talk) 01:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Keep. The fact that the sources are related to the speedway does not make them non-independent. Per WP:GNG "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. These sources could be considered affiliated with him if, for example, he were their owner. I would add a few more secondary sources [21] [22] [23] Tau Corvi (talk) 22:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
I have set up a discussion here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Speedway_related_sources. LibStar (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Comment: I saw the RSN discussion first, so I do not plan to vote, but to give my opinion from my limited perspective. Having taken a look at Scunthorpe Scorpions, which looks like two different teams on one article, I can count about five dozen riders that have articles. Of the "Notable riders," most of them use "speedway related sources" in their articles with British Speedway cited between two and three dozen times. (More problematic, but farther outside of the discussion is that at least one article is citing sources that are MREL and GUNREL.)
Overall, the issue over the specific sources is going to have an effect on other articles. If deemed a problem, then there will need to be more AfD discussions in the near future; while if deemed acceptable could lead to additional article creations. I am of the opinion that redirects to the team articles could be more preferred than deletion and that some information might be includable in the various team articles. That said, I am unsure if the sources are a problem on these rider articles. --Super Goku V (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom. Lacking in WP:SIGCOV. SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Delete – Minimal significant coverage, no real claim of notability. 5225C (talk • contributions) 08:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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2 of the 3 sources brought up are not independent as discussed in reliable sources. The article subject still fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 01:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Brock Berryhill

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Found no coverage of the artist beyond the one MusicRow article already present. Passing mentions for credits on notable musicians' songs does not make notability here. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 02:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Marek Małecki

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Equestrian who does not satisfy sports notability. There are two references. The first one is a database entry, and database entries do not establish sports notability. The second is an obituary, which may count toward general notability but is the only significant source. He competed in the Olympics, but does not have Olympic notability because he did not receive a medal.

Reference Number Reference Comments Independent Significant Reliable Secondary
1 https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/ma/marek-malecki-1.html A Wayback Machine copy of a database entry of sports statistics Yes No Yes No
2 hejnakon.pl Obituary in Polish equestrian magazine. Yes Yes Yes Yes

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List of career achievements by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

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List of career achievements by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Similar to other articles in the Career achievements of basketball players category, this is a collection of indiscriminate trivia with trivial statistical cross sections, which is a violation of WP:NOTSTATS and does not meet the notability criteria under WP:NLIST. The most pertinent info is already included in the main article. Let'srun (talk) 00:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep but with severe pruning. Ditch the NBA statistics and Career high sections and trim the NBA records, but that still leaves a notable boatload of the last, e.g. most points scored, most blocks (both now second), etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

List of career achievements by Allen Iverson

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List of career achievements by Allen Iverson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a collection of indiscriminate trivia with trivial statistical cross sections, which is a violation of WP:NOTSTATS. The most pertinent info is already included in the main article. Let'srun (talk) 00:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom. Unlike Abdul-Jabbar, Iverson didn't set a lot of significant NBA records, certainly nothing that couldn't go in his article. (Maybe if he had practiced more ...) Clarityfiend (talk) 08:48, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete WP:CONTENTFORK that is largely unsourced, whose content would mostly be WP:NOTSTATS on his bio. The recent consensus has been against these standalone odes to star athletes.—Bagumba (talk) 14:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Brunei national baseball team

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I was unable to find any evidence verifying notability for this team under the WP:GNG. From what I can tell, the WBSC does not even have the team ranked as seen at [[24]]. Let'srun (talk) 00:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 16:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Akbarpur Girls Inter College

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Since the last AfD, we are a lot stricter of notability of schools. Could not find sources to meet WP:NSCHOOL. LibStar (talk) 00:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete. Looked for online sources. Could only find this passing mention. If school were older, I'd wonder about print sources, but as it is I don't think we have anything. Considered redirect to Akbarpur, Kanpur Dehat, but as there is so little referenced content I think Delete is the better option. Tacyarg (talk) 00:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete. Looked online, google scholar, and a newspaper archive and couldn't find anything. Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
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