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Chinese long-haired wolfdog (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The sources are both user-generated, according to the small print at the bottom of both articles. This was draftified for this reason but not corrected. I am unable to find good sources for this breed, but there might well be reliable Chinese or other sources of course. Without those, this should be deleted. Fram (talk) 08:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it will be difficult to find information as this is a rare and young independent breed of dog.
Originated in the 20th century, it is a new dog breed based on the West German Shepherd Dog, mixed with the Belgian Tervuren and the Chinese wolf. Wtf35861887 (talk) 09:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I agree the three sources are basically WP:BLOG according to the notices at the foot of the article.
    I've done some searches in Chinese, and there's definitely some web mention of them but am not finding much of quality This article is pretty much pushing a press release but gives a sense of the scale of the breed:

    On April 16, the China Animal Husbandry Beacon's "Muhuo Tongming Cup" National First Spring Expo of Chinese Shepherd Dogs was held in Xinmin City. The Expo brought together more than 300 excellent Chinese shepherd dogs in China, with an estimated total value of more than 100 million yuan. This Expo aims to showcase the excellent dog breeds bred by my country, promote the establishment of breeding standards for Chinese shepherd dogs, and promote Chinese shepherd dogs to the international stage.

    According to the organizers, all kennels that breed Chinese shepherd dogs nationwide came to the Expo. Among them, the highest value Chinese shepherd dog has a market value of 9 million yuan. It is understood that Chinese shepherd dogs are one of the few native guardian dog breeds in China that have been preserved to this day. They are gentle, brave and vigilant, have very strong guarding instincts, are extremely loyal to their territory and owners, can hold their ground and protect their homes without hesitation in critical moments. Stable characteristics and unique personality have made them a unique dog breed in China.

    Far as I can tell, no articles support having been bred "since the 20th century", but it's not a very bold claim. Happy to reconsider my vote if further sources emerge. Oblivy (talk) 09:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This dog breed was developed by dog ​​enthusiasts and the Chinese military, but it was mainly carried out by the Chinese military. The Chinese military dog ​​breeding program began in the 20th century, and this dog breed was the first to be bred under the program. Wtf35861887 (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Brands Hatch Racing (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable team that did not qualify for a single Grand Prix it entered. WP:SIGCOV is literally non-existent. All WP:RS leads to the track it is named after. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:37, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Czech Airlines destinations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, plain logic

Logic is failed because this is a largely a list of places that Czech Airlines wasn't flying to in February 2024, as is indicated by the overwhelming majority of them being listed as "terminated". Czech Airlines only flew to four destinations in February 2024, all of which are already mentioned on the Czech Airlines page, making this page redundant. Anyone asserting that these "terminated" destinations are of historical interest needs to show historical sourcing for that (i.e., historical journal, history book etc.) - Wikipedia is not the place to publish your own historical research about where an airline used to fly.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations ever flown to, however briefly, are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources. This article is largely sourced to old timetables published by the airline (e.g., this one), or to the company website, or to run-of-the-mill articles based on company press-releases and statements and trade-press coverage or local-news failing WP:AUD. Additionally, many of the links are 404, making them fail verifiability. Sources that clearly pass WP:ORGIND are needed, but none are present nor could I find any. FOARP (talk) 08:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article subject does not show up in any online searches except for YouTube, social media, and one website newtimes.co.rw. My previous edit was to remove almost all of the article sources (almost all pointing to New Times articles), which were simply puff pieces and did not factually support anything in the article. Celjski Grad (talk) 11:11, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Warwick Slow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A case of WP:BLP1E. LibStar (talk) 12:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is an unbolded Keep here from the article creator so I don't think a Soft Deletion is possible.
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Medwyn Goodall (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This appears to be a vanity page for a musician. While his body of work is extensive, I cannot find any substantial online coverage of him to fulfill WP:BASIC or WP:MUSICBIO. The second reference states that he has topped the UK music charts twice, but this appears to be a fanzine of questionable reliability and I can't find any mention of him at the official chart website. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 08:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Found this Billboard mention that one of his records sold 50,000 copies here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    HELLO ALL - I am the ARTIST - COMPOSER/recording artist. This page looks as though it was originally created by fans. However I do ask it is NOT deleted WHY >> I am an international award winning artist (instrumental music) 6 gold disc, 1 platinumn and a life achievement award, at least 4 million fans international. I also own a record label managing other artists. A 33yr career. My own radio show also. UK based. Numerous hits. Career is still ongoing. Instrumental music doesnt tend to be found in charts or have the hype of pop music so whilst I am not as trackable you will find me all over itunes, spotify, Amazon, Facebook, youtube, google, as one of the most famous artists of my genre. Medwyngoodall (talk) 19:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
HELLO ALL - I am the ARTIST - COMPOSER/recording artist. This page looks as though it was originally created by fans. However I do ask it is NOT deleted WHY >> I am an international award winning artist (instrumental music) 6 gold disc, 1 platinumn and a life achievement award, at least 4 million fans international. I also own a record label managing other artists. A 33yr career. My own radio show also. UK based. Numerous hits. Career is still ongoing. Instrumental music doesnt tend to be found in charts or have the hype of pop music so whilst I am not as trackable you will find me all over itunes, spotify, Amazon, Facebook, youtube, google, as one of the most famous artists of my genre Medwyngoodall (talk) 19:40, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These are the notability guidelines Wikipedia follows for keeping articles on musicians: WP:MUSICBIO. We need reliable sources (WP:RS) to show the article subject meets the criteria. At present it's unlikely there are enough sources, so if you can provide such references that would significantly help. (Note I have been unable to verify the Gold certifications via the British Phonographic Industry website, so help on that would also be useful). ResonantDistortion 07:04, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. We need more participation here.
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NGC 7075 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This galaxy is not notable, all of the references are to catalog entries. Parejkoj (talk) 06:21, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is some commentary beyond catalogue entries about this galaxy here: https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/499/4/5719/5923577?login=false , https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/489/3/3739/5554765?login=false and https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/484/3/4239/5299582?login=false. The radio source accociated with the galaxy is descripted in a more than a passing reference in a table here https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/282/1/40/1036079?login=false. It is a keep for me. --C messier (talk) 08:59, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
IC 1050 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All of the references in this article are catalog entries. It has had a couple of supernovae, but those are also not interesting beyond their catalog entries. Parejkoj (talk) 06:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Al Ghardaqa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Total WP:SYNTH/WP:OR - unverifiable (book ISBNs all fail lookup, as do the cited DOIs). Sent to draft, returned by author unchanged other than to remove many of the suspect ISBNs. BTW the book titles themselves fail book search - give the first cited source, "Genealogies of Eastern Arabia: Tracing the Lineages" a try... WP:NOTGENEALOGY very much applies but even if it didn't, this content is dubious and misleading (but also irrelevant) at best. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Historical background of the Russo-Ukrainian War (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It is with a heavy heart that I propose deletion of this page.

The reason is simple: the scope of this article is untenable. When this page was originally created in 2014, it attempted to provide socio-historical background information for readers of the article 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine, which covered then ongoing protests in particular regions of that country. It primarily served as a sub-article of 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine, because that article had got too long. The scope of the article at the time of its creation was a product of that time, and the limited sources that were then available. As the conflict evolved, it became apparent that the article was no longer functioning, leading to a previous deletion discussion in 2022. The result of that discussion was 'keep', despite acknowledgement of concerns about the article's content, including potential WP:OR analysis of primary sources.

All of the existing content has been systematically deleted from the article this year, and the article moved and rescoped. Now, this article purports to provide the historical background to the multi-faceted geopolitical conflict that is the Russo-Ukrainian War, and yet completely fails to do so. In fact, it is unlikely that it will ever be able to do so, because its scope is too broad, with much of the relevant content provided in other articles, such as Russo-Ukrainian War. At present, it seems to be nothing more than a WP:COATRACK for miscellaneous history, without any clear narrative or connection to the actual topic it purports to describe: no link is established between the article contents and the war that began in 2014.

Is the whole history of Ukraine within the scope of this article? The whole history of Russia? These could both legitimately claimed to be 'historical background' to the current conflict, and there may be reliable sources that establish such a reality. However, an article with such a scope could never actually function on Wikipedia as anything other than a WP:POVFORK of other better articles on this subject, such as Russia–Ukraine relations. Unfortunately, I think my dear friend Iryna, ever the wisest, has been proven correct by the test of time. She warned me and others that this article would become 'the biggest coatrack Wikipedia has ever seen', and that there was little hope in creating anything of value to the reader with an article scope this broad. Ah, the naivety of youth. If only I had listened...

Fundamentally, the deletion of the existing article content without community consensus is concerning from a procedural point of view. However, I agree in principle that the removed content no longer has an encyclopaedic purpose. For this reason, I suggest this article be deleted. 'Historical background of the Russo-Ukrainian War' may be a notable concept, though I note that no other war covered on Wikipedia has a similar article. I caution, as Iryna did so many years ago, that any such article is liable to become a WP:COATRACK. However, even if such an article is deemed viable for creation, in content, concept and scope, it would still be fundamentally different from the article the existed for ten years from 2014, and therefore I believe 'Blow it up and start over' applies. I propose a clean start. Who is with me? RGloucester 05:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article is based on books by highly renowned historians, e.g. Andreas Kappeler and Serhii Plokhy. Those books were written explicitly to provide the historical background of that war. I don't see any of our guidelines supporting deletion. Rsk6400 (talk) 07:14, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
King Sis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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[1] is a Google Doc, [2] is a YouTube video, [3] is interview. No notability to be kept. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 05:15, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gregor Henderson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BIO. Sources 4-6 are primary, his "employer". I don't regard having a Order of Australia, or previous position as President of the Assembly, as conferring inherent notability. A search for sources yielded namesakes. LibStar (talk) 05:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Angola, London (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No secondary sources. Fails WP:GNG. Lacking any substantive encyclopedic content. AusLondonder (talk) 04:15, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Chang-gun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 04:00, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ji (surname 蓟) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nonnotable surname (only one notable individual with this surname, who probably died 1800 years ago and who has no page on enwiki); material can be merged into Ji (surname). We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 03:10, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Smuts in British Transvaal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article is entirely unsourced and reads like an essay. The topic itself does not appear sufficiently notable for its own article. While a merge has been suggested in edit histories, doing so would require the introduction of unsourced and essay-like material into an otherwise non-problematic page. Additionally, a section to this effect already exists at Jan Smuts. The content of the article is not suitable for any page and thus should be deleted. Garsh (talk) 02:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Li (surname 莉) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nonnotable surname (no notable individual with this surname); material can be merged into List of surnames romanized Li. We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 02:35, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Li (surname 理) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nonnotable surname (no notable individual with this surname); material can be merged into List of surnames romanized Li. We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 02:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch 04:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think there's anything here worth merging, since Folk etymologies of Chinese surnames and Surnames in Chinese mythology are both redlinks. I don't have access to any complete biographical dictionaries of Chinese historical figures anymore, but it's telling that the Kangxi entry for 理 as a surname lists only the single individual 理徵, who seems to have been invented or repurposed to make sense of a bit of the Yellow Emperor myth where somehow he was the ultimate progenitor of a dozen different surnames.
    The phenomenon of earlyish Chinese families backdating their surnames to mythological and legendary figures to bolster their own reputations — that's an interesting subject and probably deserves better coverage than we currently give it, but just uncritically repeating myths and folk etymologies without contextualising them as such is not what we should be doing here. I'm landing at delete, but also copypaste sourcing to zh:理姓 (unsourced). Folly Mox (talk) 08:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Measure of Music (conference) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources do not provide in depth coverage of the event, which does not appear notable. Restoration fine as a SOFT delete (courtesy @Graeme Bartlett:) and no objection to draft space as requester noted so that I can make improvements as more references become available. but it does not appear sufficient sourcing currently exists. Star Mississippi 01:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

British ski jumping records (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Original research; none of the sources support that these are the British ski jumping records, just that the listed people made jumps of this length at some point. No sources found, and no similar lists for other countries to suggest sources. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:19, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Desmond Murphy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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We don't normally create articles for players playing just 1 first class match. Only primary sources provided. Fails WP:NCRIC. LibStar (talk) 01:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edgar Stangeland (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Only primary sources provided. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 00:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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