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2022 Shreveport mayoral election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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More electioncruft articles, except all of these are in a town that is not even in the top 100 largest towns in the United States. Not notable for the usual reasons, Wikipedia is a political database. Fails the general notability guideline, as all sources are WP:MILL in local news stations or papers. Additionally, no coverage is sustaining, failing WP:NEVENT. I am nominating the following articles as well:

• 2022 Shreveport mayoral election
• 2018 Shreveport mayoral election
• 2014 Shreveport mayoral election
• 2010 Shreveport mayoral election
• 2006 Shreveport mayoral election
• 2002 Shreveport mayoral election
• 1998 Shreveport mayoral election
• 1994 Shreveport mayoral election
• 1990 Shreveport mayoral election — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1ctinus (talk • contribs)
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• Weak keep - I'm struggling with this one. I am mostly persuaded by your argument, however, I am a sucker for well done election articles with good sources, images, graphics, etc. It may be better served at ballotpedia. I think it's worth keeping as a source of accurate information with pretty graphics. My city is a little larger than Shreveport and our mayoral election is on Wikipedia with far less information. I would't want it deleted. Perhaps a faulty reason I'm giving to keep, but I think that it just scrapes by as a source of general encyclopedia information. Bluefist ^talk 02:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Your argument against deletion seems to emphasize its inherent importance (WP:ITSIMPORTANT). However, on Wikipedia, importance is determined by significant, independent coverage, and unfortunately, there isn't a rule that makes municipal elections automatically notable.

  If you want to merge these all into a list (mayoral elections in Green Bay, Wisconsin), I would be fine with that, but for now, we have an unmaintainable mess of hundreds of these mayoral elections without explaining their significance. -1ctinus📝🗨 11:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to List of mayors of Shreveport, Louisiana. Other than the 2022 article, the articles are only sourced to primary sources and mostly about candidates without stand-alone articles. The additional coverage of Adrian Perkins and the 2022 election is likely because of editor interest rather than availability of sourcing. And the sources for 2022 are just WP:MILL coverage of candidate entries, endorsements, and results. List of mayors of Shreveport, Louisiana is the only plausible redirect target; it seems reasonable enough as an alternative to deletion. Walsh90210 (talk) 04:00, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Week keep per bluefist, articles have a decent amount of coverage Microplastic Consumer (talk) 04:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Frustratingly newspapers.com is offline for the Wikilibrary, so I cannot clip articles, but simple searching shows extensive coverage of the elections from the 1990s and early 2000s in The Times (Shreveport, Louisiana). NB: WP:NEXIST. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 02:57, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Norbert Magosi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. All the sources provided are primary. A google news search yields nothing. LibStar (talk) 03:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep - Meets criteria 4 of WP:NMOTORSPORT, being a multiple national champion. SpacedFarmer (talk) 07:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @SpacedFarmer, all sportspeople must meet SPORTCRIT #5 regardless of meeting a sport-specific criterion. Where is the SIGCOV? JoelleJay (talk) 21:55, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The same as this amongst others...Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Sakhir Formula 3 round (which I nominated, where are the SIGCOV for these too) SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That is not an article on a sportsperson; these are not comparable, especially as bundled noms almost always fail and the keep !voters weren't even arguing to keep on GNG grounds. I don't think the keep arguments were correct there, but that was a completely different situation. JoelleJay (talk) 23:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  They were bundled as they have in common is the lack of WP:RS besides a hobbyist newssite. SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:53, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  According to the article, he's covered on three pages of Świat Żużla. That should be checked. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Also, finding two stories here and here ("Magosi Norbert is one of the most important figures in Hungarian motorsport") wasn't difficult. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I think we're closer to needing to delete those championship articles than we are to being able to use them as an indication of notability. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 08:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@JoelleJay , @BeanieFan11 , @5225C . Just pinging 3 current participants in this AfD that haven't cast a vote. LibStar (talk) 04:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – Not much to discuss really, sources in the article are unhelpful (databases and speedway organiser-affiliated outlets) and no signs of significant coverage in the usual places. The lack of a Hungarian language article is somewhat telling. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 06:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Bednář (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 02:29, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment it might be too soon. I don't see anything other than mentions in event coverage. But there are mentions in event coverage; [1] is the best one I found; [2] [3] are closer to name-drops. Walsh90210 (talk) 03:48, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Scugog Community Recreation Centre (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable local arena. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uxbridge Arena and Recreation Centre. asilvering (talk) 01:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Copying part of my comment from the other AfD: I don't see sigcov of this local arena here. I think it probably exists somewhere in a newspaper archive, so someone might be able to make an article on this topic, but I don't think we're going to turn it up during this AfD, if ever. Here's the two local news websites: [4], [5]. They're not great. -- asilvering (talk) 01:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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• Nom comment: a merge to the article on the town was proposed on the Uxbridge AfD and would work for this one too. I went ahead and merged the content in already, so I could withdraw this nom and WP:BLAR the article, but I strongly suspect the BLAR would be reverted, so I'd rather let this AfD play out in full. -- asilvering (talk) 21:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Blog rally (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Not a notable term; arguably not a term at all. Other than the Engage With Grace reference, the sources seem to be in-passing usage of the two words next to each other, or not even that. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:14, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: per nom. Can barely find anything even mentioning the term. Looks like an attempt at promotion. C F A 💬 00:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Denver Perfume (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Likely to fail WP:NCORP. Sourced to interviews, PR/churnalism. KH-1 (talk) 01:14, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tip the Van (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 00:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete unless someone can find multiple independent reliable sources that devote significant coverage to this band. I couldn't. Cullen328 (talk) 01:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Hey Cullen328. I'm not sure if these are the sources you are looking for, but here are some that I found.

  CT Newspaper - Hartford Courant

  https://www.courant.com/2019/12/13/tip-the-van-reunion-tour-stopping-at-space-ballroom/

  https://www.courant.com/2007/08/02/a-slam-bam-thank-you-to-some-grand-bands/

  CT Newspaper - New Haven Register

  https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/Spring-Heeled-Jack-reunites-Friday-and-Saturday-11600584.php

  Archive.org copy of the Vans Warped Tour Site from 2010 listing the band

  https://web.archive.org/web/20100415160948/http://www.vanswarpedtour.com/warpedtour/bands.asp

  Wikipedia Article Listing the Band Having Played the Vans Warped Tour 3x

  https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Mariupol defender&lang=en&q=List_of_Warped_Tour_lineups_by_year

  Ticket Listing from a CT Music Venue

  https://spaceballroom.com/e/tip-the-van-reunion-show--82671932977/

  Interview with the Band

  https://v13.net/2010/08/interview-with-tip-the-van-singer-nicole-oliva-and-bassist-bryan-howard/

  Michigan Newspaper Listing the Band

  https://www.mlive.com/entertainment/flint/2010/07/rocker_andrew_wk_returns_to_hi.html

  Concert Listings

  https://www.concertarchives.org/bands/tip-the-van--2?page=1#concert-table

  Concert Review

  https://duffguidetoska.blogspot.com/2009/11/duff-gig-review-across-aisle-tip-van.html

  If you need more sources to keep this article, I'm happy to keep digging. 137.99.142.26 (talk) 13:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  About the Wikipedia source one, It absolutely does not qualify as reliable source per WP:CIRCULAR Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 01:14, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The only source out of those that could possibly contribute to notability is the first one, the others just mention the band or aren't reliable sources. Interviews don't establish notability, although the pre-interview portion has a bit of commentary, so there's that too, I guess. toweli (talk) 01:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lost Mysteries (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I'm rather surprised that this survived the earlier deletion discussion, which seems very shallow. Most of those calling for keeping it cited only the sheer number of sources all piled up in one place, with apparently nobody, including the nominator, actually looking at them. Well, I've looked at them all, or at least those that are still online, and they are all nearly exactly the same: some fan horror fan website or podcast writes like two paragraphs saying "these are kind of cool" and then reproduces several of the illustrations (although those have mostly been taken down now as well). I didn't find a single one that a person could honestly characterize as significant coverage from a reliable source.

The use of external links is also problematic, we don't usually include 140 external links in the body of an article, or any at all, actually. It would be more effort than this article is worth to even correct this problem as this appears to have been a flash-in-the-pan fad that the artist did to raise money for some other project, from what I can glean from the extremely scant actual coverage that goes beyond "hey look at this." Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 21:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep I don't agree that it can be characterized as a "flash-in-the-pan fad" when it's been going on for 10 years continues to get coverage since the last time a source was added to the article, 1, 2, 3. What can be considered "in depth" is highly debatable, personally I would say that what is here gets the subject over GNG. And "article is bad/weird/unusual" is not a valid reason for deletion.★Trekker (talk) 22:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Just saying What can be considered "in depth" is highly debatable is easy enough, but I don't think you can actually show that any of this coverage has any depth at all, and also none of it is what would be considered a reliable source, which you haven't addressed with your reply. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 00:09, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the sources are considered reliable by the horror project as far as I know.★Trekker (talk) 10:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing whatever specialized sourcing guideline you are referring to. "I think a WikiProject agrees with me" is not a valid argument as that is obviously not how we determine what is a reliable source. Geek Tyrant, for example, does not look at all like proffessional journalism. Neither does The Retroist, which spilled all of 131 words on the subject, hardly in-depth coverage. Paste (magazine) seems an ok source, but they wrote only five sentences, that again, boiled down to "hey look at this guys Tumblr" and nothing else. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 19:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I am satisfied with the existing coverage. The page might do with some cleanup, true. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm honestly confused how you could look at literally any of the sources and feel that they present the subject in any depth. There's nothing beyond "hey look at this" which is why the article is just the same. There's a good number of sources, but if you can't point to at least a few that have some depth then how can you be satisfied with it? Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 19:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  You have already stated that 3 times or maybe more and Trekker has already kindly replied. Check the definition of significant on Wikipedia, if you wish. Various sources are independent and reliable and address the productions directly; the coverage can be considered significant either individually, or collectively, if your concern is the number of words or sentences of each of the sources. Thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:27, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Check the definition of significant on Wikipedia, if you wish. Yeah, I'm aware of it, the sentence you quote actually says "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail" (emphasis added). This is my entire point, there is no detailed analysis in any of the sources. A whole bunch of brief mentions that say nothing of substance doesn't meet the bar. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I never doubted you knew it. But that's what Trekker already told you, the threshold between in-depth and not in-depth can appear debatable. The dichotomy detail/vs/trivial mention, on the other hand, less so. And various sources are clearly not passing mentions but address the topic directly, yes. You might, personally, wish there were more details or might not like what the source says, or what you see, or the way the article says things, or maybe you find it of little interest, etc., but some sources can reasonably be called detailed and can definitely not be called trivial coverage. I don't like it either, at all, if you want to know the truth, but, from my understanding of the guideline, it may be considered notable. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 00:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong delete. The first source is "Geek Tyrant" which does not seem like the most reliable of sources and is only five sentences, so not significant coverage. The second source is similarly "ComingSoon.net" which is only four sentences long. The third source is "ComingSoon.net" again, this time with five sentences. I don't see the significant coverage in reliable sources here that would suggest this might meet WP:GNG. I'd consider an article on the artist rather than this one of their art projects, but this seems far from WP:ARTIST standards like "significant new concept, theory, or technique," "substantial part of a significant exhibition," or "represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums." Elspea756 (talk) 21:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Not replying on the significant/not significant issue, but I would not be opposed to redirecting it to Travis Falligant (see https://nerdist.com/article/scooby-doo-horror-icons-art-michael-myers-jason-voorhees-freddy-krueger/ https://in.ign.com/scooby-doo/62024/news/artist-imagines-scooby-doo-meeting-freddy-jason-and-more (both about the Scooby-Doo work and not quoted in the article, if I am not mistaken) https://bloody-disgusting.com/images/3605367/artist-travis-falligants-adorable-horror-babies-ready-animated-series/ https://www.altpress.com/an_artist_transformed_disney_princesses_into_popular_horror_movie_character/ that could help establish his new concept is the cute x horror crossover) but in the meantime, this is perhaps his best known and (I think) most extensive work and we can't redirect it to a non-existing page. Again, if other users think renaming and reshaping the page is better, I am not opposed. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:25, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I've checked these suggested sources, and am regretting that I spent any time doing so. I am switching my previous comment to "strong delete," as I am further convinced this is nowhere near WP:GNG or WP:ARTIST. Elspea756 (talk) 22:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  You're welcome. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:37, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  This is what is puzzling to me as well. The last AFD ended in a keep result because there was no actual discussion of the quality of the sources. That's fair, when nominating something for deletion the quality of the sources is almost always a key element and the onus is on the nominator to make that point.

  Unlike the previous nominator, I did take the time to look at them, and there's nothing there beyond "look at this" which obviously does not constitute significant coverage, whether the sources are reliable or not.

  The suggested new sources are just more of the same. Fan sites need to keep grinding out content to attract readers, and that is all that this coverage is, a couple sentences, then a bunch of examples of the works. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Nerdist is not a fan site, IGN is not a fan site, Altpress is not a fan site, Bloody Disgusting is not a fan site. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Canadian Future Party (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable protest/vanity political party. Was formerly a redirect to its founder/leader, Dominic Cardy, a former New Brunswick New Democrat who was elected to the provincial legislature as a Conservative and later expelled from the Conservative caucus. In 2023 after the federal Conservative Party elected Pierre Poilievre its new leader, Cardy and a small number of disgruntled party members split off and formed their own party, at one time called "Centre Ice Conservatives", later "Centre Ice Canadians", and now registered eligible to register as the Canadian Future Party. This party got a blip of coverage when it was formed last September, including a hit piece used as a reference here which opines in its first paragraph, "this tiny group of disgruntled politicos has no political future in Canada". It has had not a single bit of coverage since, other than very brief passing mentions in routine coverage of federal politics. The article as it stands is a promotional coat rack leaning on the prestige of a few notable political figures who were associated with the party's predecessor groups before splitting from the CPC, but are not evidently currently involved with it at all. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep the party has just met Elections Canada eligibility requirements which means they have passed the notability threshold and as of July 22, 2024 are listed as an "eligible party" on the Elections Canada website [6]. Wellington Bay (talk) 22:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Wellington Bay, WP:NORG is very clear that political parties are not awarded "inherent notability" simply for existing, and must meet WP:GNG (WP:ORGCRIT). Curbon7 (talk) 23:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Looking at List of political parties in Canada our practice has been that recognition by Elections Canada or a provincial equivalent establishes inherent notability. Wellington Bay (talk) 23:27, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • There is no such thing as inherent notability. Cullen328 (talk) 00:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, given that they have managed to pass Elections Canada's criteria, vanity project or not, they will be as notable as any other minor party soon if they aren't already. Wellington Bay (talk) 02:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

        When they actually get someone elected, which likely won't happen, then we can have an article about them; "pie in the sky" hopes aren't notable. Oaktree b (talk) 21:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Per WP:ORGSIG: "No company or organization is considered inherently notable. No organization is exempt from this requirement, no matter what kind of organization it is, including schools." Also per WP:ORGCRIT: "A company, corporation, organization, group, product, or service is presumed notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject" - this fails that test, and political parties are not exempt. AusLondonder (talk) 14:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep

  Quote; if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject

  1. https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/from-centre-ice-conservatives-to-canadian-future-a-new-federal-party-takes-shape-1.6570315

  2. https://jacobin.com/2023/10/canada-new-future-party-centrism-dominic-cardy-politics

  3. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/new-federal-centrist-party-canada-1.6972891

  4. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/michael-taube-canadian-future-a-party-for-losers

  5. https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/09/20/news/upstart-federal-political-party-wants-provide-centrist-alternative

  This is not including the coverage of 'Centre Ice Canadians' which the party emerged out of. Wilson (talk) 01:21, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - well, given that the party has announced it will be running candidates in the upcoming byelections and general election it is likely that it will be receiving more independent, verifiable coverage this year and next, so I ask that if the decision is to not keep the the article, that it be replaced with a redirect to Dominic Cardy so that future editors don't have to start from scratch once there are more sources. Wellington Bay (talk) 16:09, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep - Same reasoning as yours. Black roses124 (talk) 02:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: There are, as far as I can find 8-9 news articles that mention the party. The wiki page itself has 10 (2 internal, 8 news). Most minor parties have more sources but have also been around longer (except the Centrist Party which only has 4 sources). The Animal Protection Party of Canada has been around since 2005 but if you exclude links to Elections Canada results it has less sourcing than this wiki page. Looking at formerly active political parties gives a mixed bag with some parties having more references and some having fewer (including, oddly, the Progressive Conservative Party). Wilson (talk) 00:12, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: There was a burst of coverage in Fall 2023 when the party first came along [7], but nothing since... Non-notable party that no one has talked about in almost a year now. The next election in Canada likely isn't until this time next year, so if there's been no coverage, I'm not sure what else will pop up. I've not heard of them in the year since these were published. Oaktree b (talk) 22:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Cardy was apparently arrested in Toronto on August 2nd; I've only learned this by visiting their facebook page. You'd expect the leader of a political party getting arrested to make some sort of news, but nothing was reported. This is very much a non-notable party at this point... Oaktree b (talk) 22:06, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That's not really true at all. There was a national post article about it. Here's the article. It also appeared on a Global News TV report. Saying that it got no coverage at all is not at all fair. 199.243.125.91 (talk) 13:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the article, it is debatably on the same level of notability for Canada, as small vanity parties like the Forward Party and others are for the United States, there are much less notable US and European Political parties that have been given articles as well. This wouldn't be a conversation if it was an American vanity party that came up, why should it be for a Canadian party of the same level? And given that the party is likely to make a notable impact in upcoming by-elections or the next general it is something that has been notable recently and will get even more attention as time goes on as well. Unova Yellow (talk) 18:08, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Dominic Cardy. I don't see enough coverage separate from him. If this is more than a vanity party, there probably will be coverage during the next election. But that isn't reason to have an article now. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Operation Atilla (Turkish Invasion of Cyprus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This article should be deleted, as it seems to overlap with Turkish invasion of Cyprus. LR.127 (talk) 09:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: WP:REDUNDANTFORK Aintabli (talk) 06:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC) [reply]

  Changing my vote to keep as I overlooked the recent move and the overall context of the article. Aintabli (talk) 06:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: WP:SPINOFF The article Turkish invasion of Cyprus only provides an overview of the military activities in three short paragraphs, however this article vastly expands on that information. Any overlap is just enough to provide context to this extra detail Farrier-as (talk) 06:29, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as a legitimate SPINOFF. Not sure how this could have been nominated or supported. The PRODding without as much as an edit summary was a disgrace. If there is no case whatsoever for deletion, an article should NEVER be considered for PROD! Yet another user moved the article without any debate. Maybe we should limit editing access to this article. gidonb (talk) 16:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Speedy keep: per WP:SPINOFF and other keep votes above. The sub-topic is notable enough and there is enough sourced information for it’s own article. Lordseriouspig 22:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or at the very least change the name to "Combat operations during the invasion of Cyprus" as operation atilla was the name of the Turkish military operation
• Keep and Move back to its original title Military operations during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. The article is a legitimate spinoff for military operations during the invasion. Confusion seems to be caused by the fact that earlier this year it was unilaterally and without discussion moved to its current somewhat misleading title.--Staberinde (talk) 15:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Agree with that too ShovelandSpade (talk) 05:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and revert name to original title. Constantine ✍ 10:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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MC Daleste (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NMUSICBIO. Discography consists of one (non-charting) album, with no awards or notable label work over a short career. Sources in both English and Portuguese focus exclusively on his death with no coverage of his music, which is reflected in the article. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 20:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep There is significant coverage outside his death. Some of these sources can be found in the respective article in Portuguese at pt:MC Daleste, which has significant "Biography" and "Career" sections. Skyshiftertalk 21:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep – Notable both when active as an artist and for his murder. Svartner (talk) 22:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Taylor Ogan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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CEO of a small hedge fund, not large enough to lend notability to either; not long out of university, with few publications. The references are about related topics but not about Ogan, who is mentioned tangetially if at all. Searches find routine listing and social media (with insufficient followers to use that to justify notability). Klbrain (talk) 20:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: The majority of the articles are about Tesla or a Chinese car company; Ogan is asked about what he thinks about xyz thing... None of these are about Ogan. There is no coverage about this individual and this shows a lack of notability. I don't find any articles we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 22:10, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. The best source I could find was this March 2024 article in the Shenzhen Daily which has some biographical coverage like this:

  Watching drone shows, using drone delivery services, taking robotaxis, turning to AI tools to increase efficiency ... such novel happenings over the past few years in Shenzhen is now Taylor Ogan's daily reality. The Snow Bull Capital CEO relocated to Shenzhen, from Boston, in January 2023. ... Shenzhen holds a special place for Ogan since he grew up listening to his parents and grandparents talk about the Chinese city they visited in the early 1990s. The 28-year-old has been to China many times. He first visited Shenzhen in 2015 and returned in 2019.

  However, rather than covering his biographical background, most of the article cites his opinion about the electric vehicle industry or Shenzhen. The other sources I found largely were passing mentions or interview content. The subject is close to passing Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline and Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria but does not meet the notability guidelines yet. If reliable sources continue covering him and eventually provide significant biographical background (rather than just interview content), I would support the recreation of the article. Cunard (talk) 08:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Not Dead Yet (nonprofit) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The article outlines no particular notablity of the group. While sources establish its existence, no notable work or membership is described. One of the articles actually describes it as a "Tiny Disability-rights Group". There is simply nothing of particular note here. SecretName101 (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: There are a few more sources on Google, including on the Library of Congress Website [8] and some academic papers, but the name makes it quite hard to search for as a lot of stuff comes up just using the express in the context of assisted suicide. -- NotCharizard ^🗨 01:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Notcharizard Library of Congress page is only archived copies of the org's website as part of the LOC's web archive project. Not necessarily something that establishes note for the org SecretName101 (talk) 06:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Collective PAC (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Pretty much all in-depth coverage I could find on Collective PAC were either about its founders (Stefanie and Quentin James) or articles where its founders were quoted, with a short snippet mentioning that they founded a PAC. You could make a decent case that Stefanie and Quentin James are notable, but the same can't really be said for Collective PAC. An editor removed my PROD from this page on the basis that they found a more recent source--a Hill article from 2024 with 1 sentence mentioning Collective PAC and a brief quote from Quentin James. Most coverage I could find of this PAC is like that: an article about PACs more broadly that simply mentions Collective PAC in passing. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 17:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kyle James Hauser (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this BLP about a musician, and added an interview to the External Links section. I cannot find other independent, reliable, significant coverage to add - there is a footnote about his teaching in a book about music education, but I don't think it's significant enough to add. I don't think the existing references demonstrate that he meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:NMUSICIAN. There are few secondary sources listed; the best may be the concert announcement in Connect Savannah. Redirect to Rapidgrass is a possibility, but he was performing before joining them, and is only mentioned in the article about them as a past member. Tacyarg (talk) 19:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Princess Margarete of Thurn and Taxis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No significant coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject and each other. The only notable source currently is a notice of her wedding in the New York Times, so her article can be redirected to her husband's which already covers that event. All the other mentions are trivial or directory entries. DrKay (talk) 18:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to Alessandro, 1st Duke of Castel Duino (although I doubt the Duke's notability as well). I have been unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The Duke is barely notable so why redirect it to him? He is probably less notable than Margarete because all that's really stated on his page is his marriages and issue. Azarctic (talk) 15:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Keep she is notable for her wedding (WP:1E) where she obviously played a significant part in. the event was notable because most ruling princely families in Europe were represented at the wedding. And some sources are secondary but reliable (WP:BASIC). Azarctic (talk) 17:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  1E says we likely shouldn't create an article for a person who is only notable for one event. It doesn't establish a person's notability. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I know that but that isn’t the only thing she’s notable for and WP:1E is if the person plays a significant role in an event and if the individual is notable then it should be put into their article. Also that’s just one of the reasons why we should keep the article because it goes into depth about the event as well as her biography which has reliable citations. Azarctic (talk) 16:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't even think the wedding is notable in itself (if it was there would be more than just a notice in the NYT) but what is this other thing they are notable for that you are alluding to but not actually stating? I can't seem to see it in the article. D1551D3N7 (talk) 23:55, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Even if it isn’t notable which it is, why should her page be deleted it still has enough coverage, her husband and father are probably less notable as her husband has only one reference so if anything he should be redirected/deleted, not Margarete’s page which should not be redirected or deleted. Azarctic (talk) 14:47, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. Article only contains information about relationships to family members and her wedding, nothing to indicate independent notability. D1551D3N7 (talk) 23:58, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is what most articles on Wikipedia are like though. Especially royalty ones because marriage is a big event in royalty. And not once has the article mentioned anything about relationships to family members except for her birth and marriage which is usual for a Wikipedia biography. Azarctic (talk) 00:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is considered an argument to avoid. 66.99.15.163 (talk) 13:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. No less notable than her husband or father, both of whom have extensive articles. Plenty of RS coverage to substantiate notability. Gamaliel (talk) 23:21, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong delete. The keep arguments are variants of 'she was present at one notable event' or 'we have articles on other non-notable people that she's related to'. These are arguments for deletion not retention. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  You haven’t even made a proper reason to delete the article. Azarctic (talk) 20:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  As I said, being present at one notable event does not make that attendee notable, nor does having non-notable relatives. Celia Homeford (talk) 07:33, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  So your saying your vote to deleting it is because she was not notable at one notable event… I don’t think that’s a proper reason still… Azarctic (talk) 16:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• weak keep I would have advocated for a redirect to the articles on his father or husband but they don't appear to be more notable than her. In any case, I don't think the article should be entirely deleted because there is some coverage in outside sources. Keivan.f^Talk 14:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Keep the page as she was not known only after her marriage to Prince Gaetano of Bourbon-Parma. I have some information about her that is present in some books on the house of Bourbon-Parma (the one by Juan Balanso in French and another in Italian). If I have time I will try to add information. I thank the creator of the page. I was just thinking of creating the page on Princess Margarete myself.
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• keep per above. IMO, she is enough to be notable per GNG. 81.231.253.231 (talk) 20:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — 81.231.253.231 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

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The person is Not notable to be added in the Wikipedia. The article is entirely promotional. The references are just some 'fashion style' non reliable non notable sources.

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  Keep AfD is not clean up, just tag the article with promo tag. There is a lot of sources talking about him on Google News. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 22:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep: I remove the fancruft and looked at the sources presented in the article and elsewhere. Being a former bandmember of AA (band) and being on Bigg Boss has attracted quite bit of press, making Blp1e inapplicable. Discard some of the unreliable sources, PR, and focusing on features such as https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/hindi/k-pop-singer-aoora-ventures-into-the-tamil-music-industry/articleshow/107967147.cms and https://www.dailyo.in/social/who-is-k-pop-singer-aoora-and-why-was-he-singing-woh-kisna-hai-in-mathura-41781 reveal Aoora’s notability. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 07:38, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Monaco–Turkey relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Declined prod, 2 of the 3 sources are primary. Not subject to significant third party coverage to meet GNG. LibStar (talk) 23:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Does not seem to be notable Chidgk1 (talk) 06:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article contains enough substantive information that it serves an encyclopedic purpose even if it doesn’t quick-pass GNG through the Google test.

Furthermore, while I wouldn’t be opposed in principle to a merge into Foreign relations of Monaco, that article is currently a bit lean and unless someone volunteers to merge everything useful in the most of the Monaco–XYZ relations articles, I fail to see how it would be practical or helpful.

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Can you provide actual third party sources that meets GNG? LibStar (talk) 11:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per lack of WP:SIGCOV. Yilloslime (talk) 16:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Beverley town fair (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This article appears to be about a livestock market that has changed date and location a few times. I was able to find a reference to medieval Saturday markets, but that 1. doesn't support the implied claim of continuity 2. still wouldn't be a claim of notability since most medium sized towns have markets of one form or another.

Looking at a current list of What's on in Beverley, there's nothing with this exact name. It's clearly the case that there are and were several markets, fairs, festivals and other community events in Beverley - searching online brings up results for the Festival of Christmas, Beverley Puppet Fest before any mention of a livestock fair - none individually notable enough for a Wikipedia article.

I would redirect to Beverley#Culture and amenities. As the article is currently entirely unsourced, I don't believe there's anything that needs merging or preserving. -- D'n'B-t -- 10:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge or Redirect to Beverley#Culture and amenities. A brief sentence of its existence could be supported with this source, I don't think it needs more than that but as it seems to have been a central trading point before the development of Hull it could be at least worth a mention. Suonii180 (talk) 19:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of titleholders under ALV Pageant Circle (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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There's no indication that these two pageants together constitute an encyclopedic topic and the article is WP:SYNTH. We already have articles on each pageant, namely Miss Grand Philippines and Miss World Philippines, plus as a quasi notable grouping, Philippines at the Big Four beauty pageants which is quite sufficient for the topic. N.b. ALV Pageant Circle is a redlink, this has the appearance of trying to bootstrap it to notability and/or provide WP:PROMO. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. It's needless repetition of information provided elsewhere. Sciencefish (talk) 16:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom. --- Tito Pao (talk) 06:59, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Parks Junior High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Not a notable middle school. Being one of ~300 schools per year to have won a National Blue Ribbon Schools Program is not a claim of notability. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect - to Fullerton School District. I agree with the nominator that simply having a Blue Ribbon School is not sufficient to bestow notability on a middle school, but redirects are cheap and a good ATD. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 15:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Waco, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The only structure at this crossroads is the Waco Church of Christ, which seems to have been the case for a very long time. Baker describes it as a post office, and I could find nothing on the place: the one thing that looked like a hit turns out to be in a different town. Mangoe (talk) 16:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment Good number of hits on Newspapers.com for "Waco Daviess", including a 1999 obit that describes Waco as a small community [9]. Also many articles were published about Perry Baldwin, a country dentist who lived there [10]. One such article states "Just by tolerance the map makers have left Waco on the map. The average motorist wouldn't know when he passed thru. If you could put one point of a pair of dividers on Waco you could swing the instrument in a 20-mile radius before touching an honest-to-gosh town." and goes on to say the only reason people visit is for a log cabin dental office. [11] -- Cerebral726 (talk) 18:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment. There was a one-room schoolhouse and is a cemetery. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dame Un Beso (Menudo song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Song has no claim of notability. Notability tag has twice been removed without any expansion to the article. Not included on the group's discography page, with its only mention as part of the track listing for the soundtrack to Una aventura llamada Menudo, which at best is a redirect target. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 21:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I can't lie, I agree with Jeanette, the film was very popular from the Menudo fans back in the early 80s, so the fact you had to say Una Aventura Llamada Menudo page was "at best a redirect target", is insane. I vote keep. Bottleboy04 (talk) 22:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Question - How is the Una Aventura Llamada Menudo page "at best a redirect target"? That film was seen all over Latin America and was popular among Menudo fans...also, I vote keep. Jeanette Dame tu un Beso a Mi Martin Loser's page, 22:09, 12 August, 2024 (UTC)
• Note This AfD is for the song not the film. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 23:59, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note The nominator's user page has been deleted. Furthermore, a person with a similar name put a notability tag on Menudo's Sube a mi Motora's song's article, and that user's page was also deleted. I think under those circumstances, we should close this nomination as a keep? Jeanette Tu me Amas baby I know you love me, baby! Martin Loser's page, 00:16, 13 August, 2024 (UTC)

@JeanetteMartin:, I’m confused why you mention the nom's lack of a user page. They are not blocked, being blocked doesn't remove your user page (usually), they simply do not want a user page. Mach61 08:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect Non-notable song. No Sigcov. Whilst the film may be notable, notability is not inherited so this is irrelevant to this discussion. John B123 (talk) 11:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caleb Avilés (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Puerto Rican singer who was a member of bands Euphoria, Explosion, MDO and Menudo: La Reunion. Can find nothing to indicate notability outside the various bands. Redirection per WP:BANDMEMBER seems appropriate here but unsure which band should be the target. John B123 (talk) 21:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I vote keep since you claimed that Redirection for Caleb to WP:BANDMEMBER is "appropriate" for you, but I'm here to tell you that he is notable back then, he just felt like going back to private life since he felt burnt out, simply because Euphoria was mostly popular in Puerto Rico, Venezuela, and Curacao since they mostly toured those three countries, though they were popular in other Latin Countries. For explosion, they were somewhat popular in parts of the United States, fairly popular in Puerto Rico and some parts of Latin America. MDO doesn't need an explaination since they were at the height of their popularity though Caleb did have trouble, he received a lot of praise and lastly for Menudo:La Reunion, even though Caleb joined late, he was praised in smaller audiences in Brazil and Puerto Rico. Once again, I vote keep. Bottleboy04 (talk) 23:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC) [reply]

I agree with Bottleboy04 says, I would also like to vote keep. I also found out my dad is mutuals with Caleb and he told me that Caleb retired because he wanted to start a family as it mentions on an archive website that he has a daughter right now. She's currently going to eleventh grade now, but last time I heard, he currently lives somewhere in North or South Carolina. Again, I would vote keep. Blanketskiller12 (talk) 23:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Socks don't have standingStar Mississippi 01:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cyber-Enhanced Working Dog (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Previously PRODed but clearly not notable. All sources I can see are recycled press releases from 2014. Mccapra (talk) 20:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom and WP:TNT. Even after several users tried to fix this, it’s still a mess. Bearian (talk) 00:16, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Wyatt (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Ron Wyatt was, according to fellow Christian fundamentalists, a fraud. But we can't really source that because no reliable source has covered it. The lack of interest from reality-based sources extends to everything else about the man. While the article has superficial referenciness, the sources cited fail to meet the Wikipedia standards of reliability and independence.This is a squarely WP:FRINGE topic that needs robust sourcing to maintain a solidly reality-based perspective.

There's a source represented as "andrews.edu" but in fact a monograph published in the Adventist Review (Wyatt was a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church). We have an article on "maintaining creationist integrity" - a horse that bolted so long ago that was long since rendered into glue - by Ken Ham and others, on the AiG website, an obviously unreliable source for anything even tangentially connected to reality. We have allthatsinteresting.com, which takes itself moderately seriously but largely draws on the same creationist argumentation as above.

I really don't think we can defend having an article on a pseudoarchaeologist when we can't even source the fact that he was a pseudoarchaeologist. Guy (help! - typo?) 20:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge with Durupınar site, which seems to be what he is (very vaguely) notable for. Slatersteven (talk) 20:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete this article should have never been created to begin with, due to the lack of reliable references. Catfurball (talk) 21:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with other amateur archeologists here: Searches for Noah's Ark 20th Century where Wyatt is already mentioned. "Criticism" section on subject's page can be incorporated into this section or biography by name can be created as a stand-alone. Maineartists (talk) 22:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I don't see either a case for notability or the presence of any content worth merging. XOR'easter (talk) 03:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Vitali Yatsko (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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A 'senior coach' is not the manager and is not an inherently notable position, especially since WP:FOOTYN is no longer valid. I can't find anything more than passing mentions of Yatsko, including the 4 references already used. My own searches yielded nothing better than Sports.kz and Sports Daily, both passing mentions again. Does not seem to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Per nom, Govvy (talk) 10:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Christophe Chaptal de Chanteloup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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LinkedIn-style resume of a successful career teacher and organisation leader but nothing here passes WP:NPROF or any other notability criteria. Apparently an autobiography. Mccapra (talk) 20:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Notability not found. Almost nobody has cited their publications. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]
• Delete. He appears to be a prolific author but I didn't find the book reviews that could help him pass WP:AUTHOR. No evidence of any WP:PROF notability criterion. And if there exist in-depth sources about him that might contribute to WP:GNG, they are obscured by the many sources in the article and elsewhere that are by him not about him. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dmitri Dmitruk (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. The references and external links are all database type entries. North8000 (talk) 20:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kübra (series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of notability under GNG or SNG. Has zero sources except for an IMDB link much less GNG sources.Tagged by others for wp:notability since May North8000 (talk) 20:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: sources= https://www.leisurebyte.com/kubra-review-cagatay-ulusoy/ (in English, but I am not familiar with that site; a few other sources in English, such as https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/kubra-complete-list-cast-turkish-drama-thriller) ; https://www.programme-tv.net/news/series-tv/345078-kubra-que-vaut-la-nouvelle-serie-mysterieuse-de-netflix/ ;https://www.libremedia.ca/kubra-lexplication-de-la-fin-qui-laisse-sans-voix/ ; https://actus.sfr.fr/cine-series/series/kubra-la-serie-netflix-aura-t-elle-droit-a-une-saison-2_AN-202401250004.html ; https://actualitte.com/article/115008/adaptation/netflix-adapte-un-roman-turc-avant-une-traduction-francaise ; (in French); https://www.nit.pt/cultura/televisao/kubra-a-netflix-continua-a-investir-nas-super-producoes-da-turquia https://www.metroworldnews.com.br/entretenimento/2024/02/16/esta-serie-turca-de-acao-e-misterio-na-netflix-tem-todos-viciados-e-prova-que-nem-tudo-e-drama/ (in Portuguese). In those two languages more sources exist. + article in Gazete Duvar accessible through the Turkish WP page

There are more than enough references in reliable media to retain the page in my view. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: The sources given above establish notability per WP:GNG. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 03:46, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nana 10 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Nana 10 was quite popular and is perhaps worthy of an article, however the article is ridiculously short. Nana 10 was an activity of Channel 10 (Israel), where it is properly mentioned however ALL DETAILS ARE MISSING at Channel 10 (Israel). As a totally IMPROPER SPINOUT it should be merged into Channel 10. There is another procedure for mergers yet currently cleaning up Israeli websites and keeping the debates together. gidonb (talk) 19:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Friedrich Wilhelm Quintscher (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Notability not established; mentions, but no in-depth sources exist. Skyerise (talk) 19:54, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment - for what it's worth, this article seems to have originally been written on the German Wikipedia. Friedrich Wilhelm Quintscher. There seems to be more content on the German site. — Maile (talk) 23:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Which seems to be sourced entirely to a self-published book. Skyerise (talk) 23:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Jerusalem Herald (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Temporary activity of two journalists. The website folded even though we gave it unwarranted publicity for 5 years. Refs are irrelevant to notability. No article on Hewiki. No indication that this meets NCORP and no encyclopedic value even under the GNG (a lower bar than the applicable standard). The entry has a strange focus on the biblical sources of the website's logo. gidonb (talk) 19:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: per nom. Fails NCORP. C F A 💬 20:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete This is more a site tour of a non-notable blog which seems to take its design too seriously, than actually talking about what its content involved. Nate • (chatter) 22:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HaKol HaYehudi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Unremarkable operation that fails NCORP. The raid on their facilities deserves some mention and is in fact mentioned at Yitzhar#2011. Not linked back, hence the article is an unmarked orphan. Both the Enwiki and Hewiki articles are refbombed with news items on the website. Should be redirected to Yitzhar#2011 or deleted. gidonb (talk) 19:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Embassy of Bolivia, London (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No secondary sources. Fails WP:GNG. Very little content, effectively a directory listing. AusLondonder (talk) 18:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Fails WP:ORG. Just a 2 line article which confirms it exists. LibStar (talk) 23:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Raison d'être (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This is not a band. It is solely the musician Peter Andersson (musician) which is up for AfD. No notable labels associated. Both pages, due to numerous aliases and other associations that all lead back to original BLP, only cite primary sources. Not RS. It should have never passed first AfD. No reviews or significant coverage, radio airplay, etc. Fails criteria.

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• Weak delete keep. The prior AFD identified some sources (one being an interview, which can be ignored), but all of them have suffered from link rot and are no longer available. If a WP:BEFORE search 15 years later has also turned up no evidence of notability, then there isn't any reason to keep this article. The only thing that gives me pause is the lengthy list of CD releases. If two of them aren't self-published, then this one-person band would pass WP:BAND criterion #5, but that's turning out to be impossible to verify. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Changed to "weak keep" because I found indication (see full discography PDF at https://raison-detre.info/#about) that several CDs were released under the defunct label Cold Meat Industry, which apparently is notable enough to have an article here, meaning that Raison d'etre meets WP:BAND criterion #5. This is, however, a primary source. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:59, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge. There's some material about Raison d'être in a 1000 words profile on Peter Andersson in Norrköpings Tidningar ("Peter är en okänd världskändis", 14 September 2006) where it's considered his main project, but I don't see the point in having one article about a Peter Andersson, a perhaps notable but still not a major musician on the world stage, and another about Raison d'être. There isn't enough material for them to be split into two. /Julle (talk) 08:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Endorsements for the 2006 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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On the face of it someone put in a fair bit of work into this, but as about half of the entries are unsourced, with very old citation needed templates, we are left with a page that is not very accurate on a subject that is not very notable, and not very likely to ever get finished. The leadership election of the Canadian liberal party in 2006 is almost certainly notable, but a list of who endorsed whom is not. What it is, is original research. If someone has put together this list and it is referred to in a secondary source, then it is notable but could be mentioned on a page about the election. If this collection does not exist anywhere, then it is not notable and the curation here is WP:OR. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Peter Andersson (musician) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Due to numerous aliases and associations with various names that are in fact themselves and "bands" that are made up of only the musician, notability is almost impossible to find. In keeping with the page Raison d'être (band) (also up for AfD), which lists only the BLP, both pages seem to be promotional in content. All sources are primary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maineartists (talk • contribs) 18:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. WP:BEFORE doesn't find anything useful. Better still, speedy delete per WP:A7. There is no credible claim of notability made here. If the band article is kept, this title should be redirected there. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anachronist: Having looked in a Swedish media archive, I'd argue the sourcing for this article is stronger than for Raison d'être. You've argued a weak keep in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raison d'être (band) (2nd nomination) and that this title should be redirected there, but since there's better sourcing for Peter Andersson (musician), I'd suggest Raison d'être (band) to be merged into this article instead. /Julle (talk) 08:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Speedy delete as A7. No credible claim of significance. C F A 💬 20:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I've added sources to the article, one of the a 1000 words profile in Norrköpings Tidningar from 2006. The articles have been located through w:sv:Mediearkivet. /Julle (talk) 08:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Email loop (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Email loops existed, and could even recur, but they are, essentially, a configuration error. I am not convinced that there is an encyclopaedic subject here though. The encyclopaedic subject is presumably email, or mail servers. What is on this page is almost entirely unsourced. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Iceberg Vodka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The page is a slightly spammy product description of a vodka product. The only claim to notability is an unsourced one that it won the 2006-07 Golden Icon Award for Best Vodka. But what is this award? There is an eponymous entertainment award, but searching for an award by this name for vodka only leads to this product. The page claims this is the Travolta Family Entertainment award, which is not the same, as far as I can tell, as the show business award. Travolta Family Entertainment is a quickly abandoned trademark [12], and I suspect the award was invented so that it could be given to this vodka. Certainly no evidence to the contrary. If that is correct, this is unashamed product spam. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Totalitär (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NBAND. Some mentions in Swedish newspaper archives but no significant coverage. AlexandraAVX (talk) 17:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Separation (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NBAND. Some coverage in Swedish newspaper archives but nothing significant about the band itself. AlexandraAVX (talk) 17:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Noah Holcomb (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I propose the deletion of the Wikipedia article on Noah Holcomb for the following reasons:

Lack of Notability:

According to Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines, a topic is presumed notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Upon thorough research, Noah Holcomb does not meet this criterion. The available sources primarily consist of minor mentions and local coverage, which do not constitute significant coverage. Insufficient Reliable Sources:

The sources cited in the article do not meet the standard of reliable, secondary sources. Most of the references are primary sources or lack the editorial oversight needed to be considered reliable. There is a scarcity of independent coverage from reputable media outlets, academic publications, or other authoritative sources. Failure to Meet Sports Notability Criteria:

For athletes, Wikipedia's Sports Notability Guidelines specify that individuals should have achieved significant success in major international competitions at the highest level. Noah Holcomb has not been documented to have such achievements. His sports career, as detailed in the article, does not include any significant milestones that would warrant notability under these guidelines. Verifiability and Independence Issues:

Wikipedia's Verifiability Policy requires that all content must be verifiable and based on reliable sources. Much of the information in the article lacks independent verification and appears to be derived from sources closely associated with Holcomb, thereby compromising the objectivity required for a Wikipedia article. Consensus from the Community:

Previous discussions and evaluations by the Wikipedia community have highlighted similar concerns regarding the subject's notability. There has been a consistent lack of support for maintaining the article due to the reasons mentioned above. Given these points, I believe the article on Noah Holcomb does not meet Wikipedia's standards for inclusion. I recommend deletion to maintain the quality and reliability of the encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiUserExplorer23 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Fails SPORTBASIC/GNG. Couldn't find any significant coverage at all. Though I recommend the nominator not use ChatGPT to generate their comments in the future. C F A 💬 20:33, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2014 Acceleration at Portimão (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Nominated for this same reason

2014 Acceleration in Assen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2014 Acceleration in Monza (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2014 Acceleration at Navarra (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2014 Acceleration at Nürburgring (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2014 Acceleration at Slovakia Ring (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I appreciate this article creator's enthusiasm in the hope that Wikipedia will help to make it notable but editors should be advised of notability guidelines before creating. In this case, can it meet notability guidelines? No, unfortunately. Like everything in Acceleration 2014, nothing there meets notability guidelines.

Unneeded WP:CFORK that is solely useful to the tiniest minorities of dedicated fans, thats if they exist, and is too over reliant on WP:PRIMARY as having checked via WP:BEFORE, this brought in nothing. All the rounds are group together in this nomination for this same reason. What all those articles have in common is that they all fail WP:GNG, as well as having poor level of WP:SIGNIFICANCE and WP:EVENTCRIT, having lasted only a single season. Also, WP:NOSTATS and WP:NSPORTSEVENT, having being a racing series by anybody other than the most ardent fans who may come and fight for a keep vote. SpacedFarmer (talk) 15:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment: I appreciate this article creator's enthusiasm in the hope that Wikipedia will help to make it notable – What? What gives you this idea? Can you at least try not to disparage content creators, as you seem to do in every AfD nomination you make? Seriously, it's ridiculous that you cannot seem to help but put others down in your nominations. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sujan Singh (contractor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Contested PROD. Fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO; all sources that provide WP:SIGCOV are authored by family members of the subject. (The article was also created by an apparent COI editor, now blocked, with a track record of creating a WP:WALLEDGARDEN of articles about their family members.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: per nom. Fails WP:BASIC. C F A 💬 16:59, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Resmi R Nair (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am curious about how this person meets WP:GNG criteria. This article does not appear to satisfy the necessary guidelines for notability.The only reliable citation in this article pertains to the news of this person arrest in a sex racket.But this incident alone does not contribute to her notability or prominence.This article was previously deleted thrugh AFD Disscusion. Padavalam🌂  ►  14:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: This appears to be a clear case of WP:BLP1E. The sources that come close to being significant only cover their arrest related to the online racket. I can’t find any other independent sources with significant coverage of the subject, so it fails to meet WP:GNG. I would like to hear the author’s comments on this article; perhaps they can provide significant coverage of the subject beyond the racket case. If they succeed, the subject might pass GNG. GrabUp - Talk 14:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had created this for her career as a model, she was also instrumental in establishing the Kiss of Love protest. The arrest was secondary. I assumed the Kiss of Love protest was what made her notable for wikipedia here. Oaktree b (talk) 14:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no doubt that the Kiss of Love protest was significant, and she played a central role in it. However, does that make her inherently notable? I am unable to find significant coverage of her in articles related to the protest. GrabUp - Talk 14:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any other notable achievements or news articles about her apart from those related to the Kiss of Love and controversy? If not, delete. CheramanMale (talk) 10:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Fails WP:GNG, per nom. Charliehdb (talk) 15:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gazetted officer (Kenya) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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A gazetted officer simply means a government employee whose appointment gets notified in the Gazette. I don't think it warrants a standalone article, WP:PAGEDECIDE. Article is also uncited and not received WP:SIGCOV with only single reference, which is barely reliable (fails WP:RS). Hence, looks like article is made out of original research. TheProEditor11 (talk) 12:24, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge to Kenya Gazette. the content is unsourced but sources exist that show the term is in use [13] [14]. But this article would be merely a definition; discussing it at Kenya Gazette is sufficient. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hikmat Zaid (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The article is highly promotion and extremely non neutral. It does use sources for some material but other material is extremely lacking in basic citations. Some sources cite to sources that are, in my opinion, not reliable at all. Others are to Fatah or Fatah-related organizations for which the subject was a non-trivial member and therefore not independent.

Created by a COI contributor and previously draftified and disputed. Creator has now been blocked for sockpuppetry for trying to deceive the connection they have had to the subject, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Abul7ik/Archive#10 August 2024. I understand that, given the COI, this could still be sent back to AfC but, given the block, I think that would be a round-about way of just {{g13}}ing the draft.

I also think this article is on the cusp of being {{g11}}ed but I may be biased given that my previous attempts to aid in fixing the draft have clearly been met in bad faith. I think any attempt to add maintenance tags would double the size of the article. My opinion is that it exists solely to promote the subject, and there is valid justification for a TNT deletion here. Bobby Cohn (talk) 13:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep and stubify. He meets NPOL as a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council (I checked, it's verifiable here). The entire article is obviously written by AI (scores 100% on GPTZero) so it should be trimmed down to a stub that can be expanded neutrally and verifiably. I have also tagged all the images for dated deletion on Commons because they are clearly not the uploader's own work. C F A 💬 15:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Certainly notable, but likely needs WP:TNTing due to the amount of AI used. Curbon7 (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gamaji Bhangare (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:CASTE cruft bio created by IP socks of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thakor Sumant Sinhji Jhala. First tried to hijack Gamaliel when that failed started this page through another IP hop. Gotitbro (talk) 10:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Fails WP:GNG. I can not verify any sources except for one but that is not on the subject of this page. RangersRus (talk) 14:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: Although the article is not properly written but it meets the WP:GNG and WP:V per the cited sources.2409:4051:38B:9FBC:2307:730F:F39B:ED93 (talk) 03:14, 11 August 2024 (UTC)— 2409:4051:38B:9FBC:2307:730F:F39B:ED93 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
• Keep: article is related to the Maratha Army of the Maratha empire that ruled northern India from 1600_1800 and also meets Verifiability.195.170.172.189 (talk) 00:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)— 195.170.172.189 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

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• Delete fails GNG. One trivial mention in this journal (with the same text as this book). Nothing else. Although weirdly a mention apparently appears in The Wikipedia Revolution (Andrew Lih, 2009) but the contents are unavailable on Google Books so I'm not sure why. C F A 💬 16:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Channel North Television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No sources. Fails WP:N. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 12:00, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete or redirect to List of free-to-air channels in New Zealand (though it is not mentioned there). There's this article but nothing outside of that. Fails GNG. C F A 💬 15:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: or redirect to the list in see also (as CFA suggests). Sources (one mentioned by CFA): https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/northland-tv-station-channel-north-revived/Y5COCFVXAAK7HQJEB25CVY5X3A/#google_vignette ; https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/51604/regional-tv-channel-'facing-certain-death' for example -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fear Factor India (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NTV. M S Hassan (talk | contributions) 10:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to Khatron Ke Khiladi (TV series) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Khatron Ke Khiladi (TV series) Next time do the most bare minimum of WP:BEFORE please, including reading the lede of this article where the suggested target is linked within it. A series with fourteen seasons certainly meets GNG/NTV. Also please update your signature to link to your current, not your former, username. Nate • (chatter) 20:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Fear Factor India and Khatron Ke Khiladi (TV series) are different series not the same. M S Hassan (talk | contributions) 23:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  They both translate to ''Fear Factor'' and use the same format and were produced by the same studio. It's baffling to keep two separate articles for the same show just because of a network difference, and there's nothing to merge outside the lede because this article has a completely unsourced cast list. Nate • (chatter) 00:21, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kodagu University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Disputed draftification. The university appears to exist because Google can find details. All the references are primary sources, none of them (currently) is able to be opened for verification. Lacks references which are significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources. Fails WP:V. Has potential to be incubated in Draft. Most assuredly not ready for mainspace. As presented fails WP:GNG 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: I am only able to find routine coverage with many passing mentions from a WP:BEFORE search. There are some reliable sources that are independent, but they are mostly announcements. These sources will likely fail the WP:SIRS check. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: my BEFORE source assessment matches those of Jeraxmoira and Timtrent, but I fall on the idea this won't meet the GNG or NSCHOOL. Bobby Cohn (talk) 14:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Aeromar destinations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, plain logic

Logic is failed because this is a largely a list of places that Aeromar wasn't flying to in January 2023, as is indicated by the overwhelming majority of them being listed as "terminated". Since all of the destinations that were active in January 2023 are mentioned on the Aeromar page, this page is redundant. Anyone asserting that these "terminated" destinations are of historical interest needs to show historical (i.e., historical journal, history book etc.) interest for that.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations ever flown to, however briefly, are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources. This article is entirely sourced either to the company website or to run-of-the-mill articles based on company press-releases and statements and trade-press coverage or local-news failing WP:AUD. Additionally, many of the links are 404, making them fail verifiability. Sources that clearly pass WP:ORGIND are needed, but none are present nor could I find any. FOARP (talk) 10:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per WP:NOT. Orientls (talk) 15:54, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

X64dbg (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No evidence of notability, sources are primary or passing mentions, notability tag removed without improvements. Fram (talk) 10:11, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't understand why this article is considered a candidate for deletion when similar debugging software like OllyDbg or Valgrind do not have this warning, despite all of the references being very similar in how they are listed, and being covered by news articles the same way. I don't see how it is a passing mention when the softwares are the primary talking point of the articles referenced. Even before the page was made, there were multiple different wikipedia pages which already pre-linked x64dbg, aswell as a work in progress draft, and the person who originally put the warning on the page had removed it. Partey Lover (talk) 00:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other articles may have escaped scrutiny, or have better sources, or have better sources available (but not in the article). This discussion deals only with this one article though. The 4 current sources are the software's homepage and Github (both don't help for notability), and then this, which is not a page or section about X64dbg, but just someone using it, and this which is clearly a passing mention with no info or discussion about the software. To establish notability, we need significant, indepth coverage in reliable, independent sources. None of the four sources used offers that combination. Fram (talk) 07:31, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chronic airway-digestive inflammatory disease (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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There is one source in this very old stub, and that is to a self help book that coined this term. I found it mentioned just a few times by similarly non medical texts, e.g. [15] which is about fitness and diet. Scholar comes up blank. Medical texts do not recognize this. The page lacks WP:MEDRS because they don't exist. At best this is a syndrome and not a disease, but as it stands there is no subject here. The opening claim appears fringe and has been unsourced for 17 years. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Made-up syndrome by one set of authors selling their cure. This text in the article definitely takes it into fringe land CAID can also impact organs beyond the respiratory (breathing) and digestive systems. Heart disease, stroke, infertility, painful headaches and chronic fatigue syndrome may be linked to CAID. Search finds discussion of some connections between some respiratory and GI illnesses, but nothing approaching a defined syndrome or the claims in this article. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 13:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Textbook nonexistent diagnosis conjured up by alt-med quacks. Not one mention in Google Scholar (!) let alone any reputable database; only mentions on the open web are this article, WP mirrors, and the book by the authors cited in the article (the only reference). User who created the page has 2 edits, both to this article. There is a real diagnosis called CAID (chronic atrial-intestinal dysrhythmia): [16] but it is unrelated. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 15:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Wikipedia is not for diseases made up one day. XOR'easter (talk) 03:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bhajpa Ki Baat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:WEBSITE, Some non-reliable sources in this article. Youknow? (talk) 08:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: I agree with the nominator. I searched for independent, reliable sources with in-depth coverage of the subject but couldn’t find any. The article relies on unreliable sources, and I was also unable to find any Hindi sources. The article fails to meet WP:NWEB and WP:GNG. Please ping me if anyone finds significant coverage from reliable sources about the subject. GrabUp - Talk 08:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Fails WP:GNG. Poor sources on the page with mostly primary source of subject's own political news website. Lacks indepth coverage and secondary independent reliable sources. Page is also for WP:PROMO and advertising purpose. RangersRus (talk) 13:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pandit Pawan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:GNG or WP:NPOL, There is no Indepth coverage. Most of the sources are user generated, not reliable sources, (WP:RS). Notion Press, Goodreads.com, Gaana. etc. All these are non-reliable sources. Youknow? (talk) 08:26, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Fails WP:GNG. Most sources on the page are poor, primary and unreliable. I cannot find subject's work that has made a significant impact and achievement (nationally or internationally) and demonstrated by secondary independent reliable sources. RangersRus (talk) 13:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Fails WP:GNG and most of the sources are unreliable. Charliehdb (talk) 15:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: per nom C F A 💬 16:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. The article fails WP:GNG, there is no significant coverage in enough reliable secondary sources MohReddy (talk) 22:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Burundi, London (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No secondary sources. Fails WP:GNG. Very little content, effectively a directory listing. AusLondonder (talk) 08:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Fails WP:ORG. No third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 09:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: fails GNG. Checked newspapers.com and Google Books. No significant coverage anywhere. C F A 💬 16:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nellore Airport (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Always been a proposed airport, no developments. Appears to be TOOSOON. Can be recreated if the airport actually reaches construction or approval stages. Thewikizoomer (talk) 07:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. The "proposed" project is still going through designs, plans, bids, contracts, budget, approvals and is too early to warrant a standalone Page on this airport. Case of WP:TOOSOON and not notable as of yet. RangersRus (talk) 12:58, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: WP:TOOSOON and fails WP:GNG. Charliehdb (talk) 15:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bret Kamwi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Article doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR and WP:ACTOR. At most impact, for directing a quite significantly covered play, I won't have at prejudice with redirecting to List of Namibian writers. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 13:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomad (eSIM) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I believe this article fails WP:NPRODUCT as the subject doesn't appear to have received sustained coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. Available sources seem to be either reviews that fail WP:PRODUCTREV, primary, or superficial mentions.

Most of the article is actually about how eSIMs work. A brief mention of this product is already given on LotusFlare, the company which runs Nomad. Ligaturama (talk) 07:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: I can only find sponsored reviews (e.g. [17][18][19] ) and trivial mentions. May be notable in the future but fails GNG at the moment. C F A 💬 16:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Not a notable product/service --𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕞𝕚𝕔𝕕𝕣𝕒𝕘𝕠𝕟𝟙𝟛𝟞 🗨️ 🖊️ 16:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2014 Bangladesh-Myanmar border skirmish (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This type of skirmish is not uncommon in the region. The event had no lasting historical significance, and Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Worldbruce (talk) 06:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom. ~ Deloar Akram (Talk • Contribute) 07:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Beykoz Arena (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No indication this stadium proposed more than 10 years ago was ever built. Google search returns a place of the same name which hosts pigeon racing. The club which supposedly will have a home at this stadium plays elsewhere, and according to their page here, have only played amateur competitions since 2011. C679 04:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete There is Beykoz Stadyumu (stadium) with a 3k capacity, [20], however Arena? Besides, this is way below the threshold, delete per nom. Govvy (talk) 10:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sandy Hook, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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A spot NE of Jackson Pond where the road goes one way and the railroad the other after running in parallel for some distance. Beyond that I have nothing except the one year post office, which is never a good sign. Mangoe (talk) 04:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Institute of Science and Technology, Bangladesh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable educational institution. No independent, reliable sources could be found in English or Bengali that contain significant coverage of it, so there should not be a stand alone article on the topic. I had previously redirected it to List of institutes in Bangladesh, but was reverted by the author, an alumnus. Worldbruce (talk) 03:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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All Israel News (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Has been dumped on the top of the list of Israeli newspapers, yet this is a platform that fails NCORP. I will go ahead and remove it from the list of Israeli newspapers. A connection to the JPost was suggested yet remains totally unclear. gidonb (talk) 03:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: fails NCORP. No significant coverage in independent sources. C F A 💬 16:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Waipareira (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable electorate that only briefly existed for 3 years. No independent secondary coverage appears to exist. Can be mentioned elsewhere like the Te Atatu electorate. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Oppose You are joking, aren't you? How can an electorate not be notable? Electorates are unique (hence, a merger is inappropriate); they form the basis for electorate seats. There is no way that you'd see an electorate deleted and I encourage you to withdraw this nomination. Schwede66 05:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  There is no subject specific notability for electorates. I did not see any reliable SIGCOV at first although I have found one source now: [21] Traumnovelle (talk) 05:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep this electorate is significant within the New Zealand context for having only lasted one election.NealeWellington (talk) 11:11, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing significant about it lasting only a single election. It was not the first electorate to exist for a single election and no reliable source mentions it being notable/significant for that. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:14, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep electorates are generally clearly notable for many different reasons. Not seeing an argument against here. SportingFlyer T·C 15:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The argument is a lack of independent reliable sources providing significant coverage, therefore no GNG. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The significant sources would have been in 1995 and 1996, and as we all know, that is a period for which there are scant online sources available. PapersPast stops at 1989, and The New Zealand Herald has an online archive going back to about 2000. There's hardly anything in between. That the sources aren't online does not mean that they do not exist. Schwede66 21:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Auckland Library has sources which have blurbs/briefs catalogued in the National Library website. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as per NealeWellington. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 02:21, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as a corrollary of WP:NPOL, electorates are presumably notable, even one in existence for a single election, although that's not necessarily the case here. Historically, Waipareira was a riding created in 1911 in the former Waitematā County Council. In the 1997 edited text "From Campaign to Coalition: New Zealand's First General Election Under Proportional Representation" ISBN 9780864693143 there's an entire chapter (Marcus Ganley's "Waipareira: A Four-Way Fight") devoted to the campaign for the seat at the 1997 election. WP:NEXIST Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 03:16, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The riding isn't related to the electorate bar the name. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Um... other than covering the same geographic area (West Auckland), sure. :) Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 03:53, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep I still can't quite fathom why a parliamentary electorate would be nominated for deletion. Obviously it is notable and should be retained. Kiwichris (talk) 05:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. All parliamentary electorates are notable, even if they have only been used for one term. Ajf773 (talk) 09:46, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incident management (ITSM) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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fails general notability guideline. ltbdl (talk) 03:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete the article sounds like a WP:DICTIONARY definition Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge: with Incident management. Tule-hog (talk) 02:31, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexis Tomassian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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nonnotable voice actor - Altenmann >talk 03:43, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment: I'm trying to evaluate WP:ENT, but Alexis Tomassian § Filmography is pretty misleading; for instance, Tomassian did not voice Zuko in A:TLA, but rather in its French dub. The best I can find so far is voicing the main characters of Martin Mystery and The Podcats, and the latter's notability is questionable. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  He also voiced Samson in Calamity, a Childhood of Martha Jane Cannary; he's listed as the third star, and a review describes Samson as the plot's initial catalyst. That looks like a significant role to me. jlwoodwa (talk) 18:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Not a significant coverage of Tomassian. In fact, not a mum about him. Notability not inherited - Altenmann >talk 18:43, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I'll paraphrase the part of WP:ENT that applies here: An actor or voice actor may be considered notable if they have had significant roles in multiple notable films or television shows. That's from a subject-specific notability guideline. "Significant coverage" has nothing to do with that – it's only in WP:GNG. I also don't see your point with WP:INHERIT – that section names SNGs as a case where notability can be inherited. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I see, thanks for clarification. Still, I fail to see "initial catalyst" is "significant role": Samson is covered in a single sentence. If a role is significant, surely it deserves more than that. About INHERIT, thanks again, I stand corrected. - Altenmann >talk 22:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The review's pretty sparse on plot in general, and Samson's one sentence is more than any other (non-main) character gets. Calamity, a Childhood of Martha Jane Cannary § Plot goes into more detail, and he's mentioned in 9 sentences there (mostly as "the soldier", but that's unambiguous). jlwoodwa (talk) 23:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Sorry to be obnoxious, but one needs an independent source that describes character's role as "significant" or similar, otherwise it is Wikipedian's opinion/original research. In the case of Calamity, I inclined to believe, because imdb say "starring Salomé Boulven Alexandra Lamy Alexis Tomassian", implying these are major roles, but unfortunately imdb is not a valid ref for wikipedia. OK. I'm done being obnoxious here. :-) - Altenmann >talk 23:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I agree that notability needs to be based on reliable sources, but we're never going to get a reliable source to directly support a claim that "this subject is wikinotable". That's probably why WP:NOR's lead says it doesn't apply to deletion discussions. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Red herring. Strawman. Muddy waters. Don't give it to me. We need a source which supports our requirement for notability. In this case we need sources which imply that the actor had "significant roles in multiple notable films or television shows". And this must acceptable for the article, not for AfD bickering. - Altenmann >talk 07:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  What are you talking about? It's not a red herring. WP:NOR literally states that This policy does not apply to talk pages and other pages which evaluate article content and sources, such as deletion discussions or policy noticeboards. Can you explain why you think we need those particular sources, given that WP:NOR does not apply? jlwoodwa (talk) 09:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Nonsense. You cannot base article content on non-reliable sources. Just the same, you cannot judge subject notability basing on self-published sources. Are you seriously telling me that if actor's mom says that her boy is the greatest actor, then we write a Wikipedia article about him? AfD discussions routinely judge sources, and WP:NOR has nothing to do with this. - Altenmann >talk 16:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I am not telling you that. I don't know why you'd think I'm telling you that. As I said before, I agree that notability needs to be based on reliable sources. I'm only objecting to your statement that one needs an independent source that describes character's role as "significant" or similar, otherwise it is Wikipedian's opinion/original research. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I am not objecting that a certain degree of "original research" is necessary in AfD discussions: of course, judging sources is kinda "original research", but this kind of Wikipedian's opinion about sources is everywhere in Wikipedia, and it is not really original research. I see we are in the same page here, so never mind. - Altenmann >talk 20:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks to Donaldd23's improvements, Zombillenium now looks notable, and a review describes Steven (Tomassian's character) for three sentences. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting, interesting discussion but we need some firm opinions on what should happen with this article and so far, I don't see any other than the nominator's. As for sources, I've seen dozens of actors' bios at AFD and "significant role" is typically judged not by a reliable source that says, exactly, that an actor's role was significant but by whether their character is listed as a main character in the film information. But there have been successful arguments that some supporting roles are also significant so there is an element of subjectivity involved.
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• Liz summarized the discussion correctly: we need sources that the actor had significant role, i.e., they were either among main characters (no further sources needed) or among supporting roles which were somehow noted by critics (e.g. award for "best supporting role" (but in the latter case it is for notability anyway), or other mentions, eg I saw statements that this or that secondary role unexpectedly rose to prominence in a film due to actor's extraordinary acting). - Altenmann >talk 03:10, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • <sigh> I have to go against my own nom, since nobody else bothers: Tomassian voiced Kaworu Nagisa (in French dubbing), definitely among main chars. - Altenmann >talk 03:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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American Liberty University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Not a notable institution. An unaccredited university, with no independent sources. No longer approved to operate [22]. The only independent coverage is a few message boards saying it is a "scam". Walsh90210 (talk) 02:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Non-notable educational institution, few if any sources, not even anything saying how good or bad it is as an institution of higher learning. Oaktree b (talk) 02:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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University of the East College of Computer Studies and Systems (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of the East College of Computer Studies and System closed as merge to University of the East and this was subsequently recreated so bringing it back here for broader discussion and merger restoration, if deemed appropriate. I am unable to find independent sourcing for this college. Star Mississippi 02:10, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to University of the East. --- Tito Pao (talk) 06:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pet Sitters International (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No evidence PSI meets N:ORG. A membership organization & trade association whose coverage is mostly non independent and definitely not in depth. Star Mississippi 02:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
  1. Costello, Jane (1999-09-02). "With Two Pet-Sitting Groups, Naturally Things Turn Catty". The Wall Street Journal. p. B1. ProQuest 398712141.

     The article notes: "After a series of catfights, Ms. Moran left NAPPS in 1993 and set up a rival organization, Pet Sitters International. The sponsor of Take Your Dog to Work Day, PSI now has 2,900 members, who pay $80 in annual dues. Through a correspondence school, PSI members can also apply to become an "Accredited Pet Sitting Technician" for $299. With further training, and another $179, there's the title "Advanced Pet Sitting Technician." For another $50, there's "Master Pet Sitting Professional." At PSI's conference in New Orleans next week, topics will include the "untapped market" for midday dog-walking and ways to avoid professional burnout. While PSI has accumulated the lion's share of pet sitters, NAPPS has recruited 1,200 members ..."

  2. Sturiale, Jeanne (2004-03-19). "King Woman Is a Leader in the Field of Pet-Sitting - Members Accredited to Visit Pets in Homes". Winston-Salem Journal. Archived from the original on 2024-08-12. Retrieved 2024-08-12.

     The article notes: "About 10 years ago, Patti Moran founded Pet Sitters International Inc. to encourage professionalism in the emerging field of in-home pet care. Since then, Pet Sitters International, a for-profit association in King, has grown to more than 6,000 members in nine countries, with members ranging from one-person shops to companies with 125 pet sitters on staff. ... After Moran sold her pet-sitting business in 1993, friends encouraged her to start an association. A year later, she formed Pet Sitters International. ... Moran wouldn't reveal profits, but, with annual member dues of $99, Pet Sitters International's sales exceed $500,000 a year."

  3. Daniel, Fran (2014-04-06). "A furry friend's safe haven. Globe pet-sitting association began in Triad" (pages 1 and 2). Winston-Salem Journal. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2024-08-12. Retrieved 2024-08-12 – via Newspapers.com.

     The article notes: "Patti Moran's love for dogs. cats and other pets morphed from a petting-sitting business into an international pet-sitting association based in King. Founded in 1994, Pet Sitters International is an educational organization for professional pet sitters. The association has 7,000 members, of which 331 are based in 30 countries outside the United States, including Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, Japan and Brazil. For the past 20 years, the association has focused on helping people start their own professional pet-sitting services by offering access to pet-sitter specific business and educational resources, as well as educating pet owners about the importance of choosing "quality pet-care providers.""

  4. Caldwell, Neill (2019-11-06). "King-based worldwide organization celebrates 25 years". The Stokes News. Archived from the original on 2024-08-12. Retrieved 2024-08-12.

     The article notes: "Pet Sitters International celebrated that 25th anniversary this past weekend during its annual World Educational Conference. Patti Moran is the founder and is considered a pioneer — not just for Pet Sitters International but for an entire industry that didn’t really exist until she envisioned it. The organization was started in Winston-Salem, but the Morans moved to King 22 years ago. ... In 1994, Moran founded Pet Sitters International (PSI). ... PSI began publishing the first magazine for professional pet sitters, now called Pet Sitter’s World. Moran and PSI also established Professional Pet Sitters Week, now a recognized, annual observance around the globe. The organization also promotes pet adoption, has an awards program, an online store and offers its members certifications and bonding. It is the world’s largest educational association for professional pet sitters and dog walkers."

  5. Duea, Angela Williams (2008). How To Open & Operate a Financially Successful Pet Sitting Business. Ocala, Florida: Atlantic Publishing. pp. 34, 223–224. ISBN 978-1-60138-229-0. Retrieved 2024-08-12 – via Internet Archive.

     The book notes on page 34: "Pet Sitters International (PSI) offers pet sitters an accreditation program to sharpen their professional skills. An in-depth educational program teaches pet sitters about pet care, health and nutrition, business management, office procedures, and additional services. The top pet sitting professionals in the industry have worked together to develop this coursework. While you can gain this knowledge in other places, such as by reading this book, PSI offers accreditation for students completing this coursework. Your clients will know that by hiring an accredited sitter, they are assured of hiring a professional with in-depth knowledge and skills in caring for pets and a good knowledge of modern pet-care practices. To become accredited, the pet sitter has to learn and exhibit a working knowledge of taking care of many types of animals and running an efficient business."

     The book notes on pages 223–224: "Pet Sitters International is dedicated to educating professional pet sitters and promoting, supporting, and recognizing excellence in pet sitting. This professional association offers pet sitters an accreditation program to sharpen their professional skills. An in-depth educational program teaches business management, office procedures, and additional services. The top pet-sitting professionals in the industry have worked together to develop this coursework."

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Pet Sitters International to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 08:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As always, thanks for the sources @Cunard, 5 was new to me but I'm not sure 1-4 are suitably independent as the blurbs are lifted from versions of their site which makes me think they're re-prints of press releases and other communications from Moran. Maybe the depth will end up being there given their history but I"ve not yet found it. Will keep looking too. Star Mississippi 12:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's unclear to me how these sources are lifted from versions of their website or are reprints of press releases. Reliable sources have covered the company's history, products, and initiatives like Take Your Dog to Work Day. This is the coverage I'd expect notable companies to receive. Some of this information is also covered on the company's website but I don't see any close paraphrasing or indication that the sources solely relied on what the company said. I think there's enough independent coverage from national publications like The Wall Street Journal and Atlantic Publishing to meet Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria. Cunard (talk) 08:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Masahiko Nakahira (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No source was found either within the article or outside the article that meet notability. 日期20220626 (talk) 01:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: There's some coverage in this, a RS [23], but it's not enough coverage for an article. That's all I can find. Oaktree b (talk) 02:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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A Pair of Aces (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Article has been tagged for sources since September 2022. The only sources on the page are for Goodreads (unreliable per WP:GOODREADS) and a "review" that ultimately directs the user to Amazon. According to the page, the text was never published, and I have not been able to find any sources on the subject. Given that there are two authors, the option to redirect is out. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Nothing useful found. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Persikad 1999 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Not a G4, but no indication factors have changed since the prior AfD. A redirect to Liga 3 (Indonesia) is likely not helpful to the reader as teams aren't mentioned there. Star Mississippi 00:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Last AfD was 7 months ago and no consensus. I still believe he fails WP:BIO and WP:AUTHOR. There is no inherent notability in any of the roles he has had. LibStar (talk) 00:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge with Melbourne School of Theology: As was proposed last time, seems fine to me. I don't see much additional coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 02:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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This seems overly advertisal and also doesn't seem especially notable. Lastly, I am suspicious of the sources. TanRabbitry (talk) 04:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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