Wikipedia:Requests for comment/History and geography

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Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard

When data provided by Gaza Health Ministry is mentioned in prose should Gaza Health Ministry have a qualifier such as Hamas-run or Hamas-controlled? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:51, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Attempted assassination of Donald Trump

At this time, the article lead says Trump "was shot in the upper part of his right ear."

At this time, some reliable sources report Trump was shot in the ear, while other reliable sources do not report this. There has been considerable discussion of this here, with no conclusive finding. The Secret Service and law enforcement have not as yet publicly stated one way or the other.

At this time, should this article say Trump was shot? soibangla (talk) 05:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Talk:White Shirts Society

Dispute over whether this article is promoting fringe theories. The information being covered is contentious, and hardly available in the English language. Most historians being cited are South Korean. One user alleges the South Korean historians have reason to be biased (and per tag, promoting fringe theories), and that more Western historians are needed. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 00:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Mughal dynasty

Per discussions above, these suggestions have made for a new Mughal dynasty lead:

"The Mughal dynasty was an Indianized Turco-Mongol dynasty that ruled over the Mughal Empire from 1526 to 1857."
- Or: "The Mughal dynasty was an Indianized dynasty of Turco-Mongol origin that ruled over the Mughal Empire from 1526 to 1857."
No changes.

Kindly, state the preferred options below. PadFoot (talk) 12:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Germany–Iran relations

George Lenczowski in “Russia and the West in Iran, 1918-1948” (1949) page 160 says the Nazis declared Iranians as Aryans without citation and has been cited himself by many authors repeating this statement, Motadel and Ansari in “Perceptions of Iran” (2013) pages 135 and 145 say they didn’t, that Lenczowski was incorrect, and cite primary source documents, but have not been widely cited by other authors on this particular subject. Which can be considered correct for use in this article and others? See Talk:Germany–Iran relations#Nazis declaring Iranians Aryans/Hitler personally saying so for further discussion. Nosam89 (talk) 07:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Gaza Health Ministry

Abraham Wyner, a professor of statistics, wrote in The Tablet that the Gaza Health Ministry casualty figures were "faked". There has been a number of discussions disagreeing about what can be included. Four academics who have entries on Wikipedia including two of statistics have dismissed the article but only one has written an analysis and that of only the first argument. Should comments which don't include analysis be included? The latest discussions are at WP:NPOVN#Gaza Health Ministry, Talk:Gaza Health Ministry#Revisiting Wyner, Talk:Gaza Health Ministry#One of the worst abuses of statistics I've ever seen, Talk:Gaza Health Ministry#Wyner, Talk:Gaza Health Ministry#Wyner summary, Talk:Gaza Health Ministry#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2024, WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 431#Tablet (magazine) and article by Wharton statistician. NadVolum (talk) 22:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Nikola Tesla/Nationality and ethnicity

Ten years have passed since the last discussion [1]. The appearance of new sources merits a new discussion.

The present text in the article stands: "Nikola Tesla was born an ethnic Serb in the village of Smiljan, within the Military Frontier, in the Austrian Empire (present-day Croatia)"

The sources provide additional context which describe the birthplace "at that time"

"Tesla was born an ethnic Serb in Smiljian in the province of Lika in what is today Croatia. At that time, a portion of Croatia was the military frontier district of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the area was referred to as Vojna Krajina ..." Bernard Carlson, Tesla: Inventor of the Electric Age, p.13
"the village where Tesla was born, is in the province of Lika, and at the time of his birth was a dependent province held by the Austro-Hungarian Empire as part of Croatia and Slovenia.". O'Neill (1944), page 12

The RfC questions are:

Was Tesla's birthplace a part of Croatia (at the time of Tesla's birth), which was at that time a part of Austrian Empire
- As opposed to the interpretation given by some editors which opinion was that, although nowadays (in 21st century) a part of Croatia, Tesla's birthplace wasn't a part of Croatia at the time of Tesla's birth (in the 19th century)
Should we include that additional context in the article by adding the following sentece from source 1: " At that time, a portion of Croatia was the military frontier district of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the area was referred to as Vojna Krajina"

Trimpops2 (talk) 11:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Thomas Niedermayer

Should the first sentence continue to read "Thomas Niedermayer [...] was kidnapped by the Provisional IRA" or be reverted back to "Thomas Niedermayer [...] was kidnapped and killed by the Provisional IRA"? 78.147.140.112 (talk) 14:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Hermann Göring

Which of the following images should serve as the infobox picture for Hermann Göring?

A (Current Image)
B
C
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E

Emiya1980 (talk) 00:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Shakshouka

Which sources are more reliable for the etymology of the word 'shakshouka'?

Current article sources:

Ellis, Robin (2016-03-03). Mediterranean Cooking for Diabetics: Delicious Dishes to Control or Avoid Diabetes. Little, Brown Book Group. ISBN 9781472136381. Archived from the original on 2017-11-16. Retrieved 2017-11-15.
Ly, Linda (2015-03-20). The CSA Cookbook: No-Waste Recipes for Cooking Your Way Through a Community Supported Agriculture Box, Farmers' Market, Or Backyard Bounty. Voyageur Press. ISBN 9780760347294. Archived from the original on 2017-11-16. Retrieved 2017-11-15.
Planet, Lonely (2017-03-01). The World's Best Superfoods. Lonely Planet. ISBN 9781787010369. Archived from the original on 2017-11-16. Retrieved 2017-11-15.
Bilderback, Leslie (2015-09-01). Mug Meals: More Than 100 No-Fuss Ways to Make a Delicious Microwave Meal in Minutes. St. Martin's Press. ISBN 9781466875210. Archived from the original on 2017-11-16. Retrieved 2017-11-15.
Jakob, Ben (2017-06-06). "How Shakshuka, Israel's Famous Breakfast Dish, Took the World By Storm". Culture Trip. Archived from the original on 2017-11-16. Retrieved 2017-11-15.
Fitzgerald, Mary (Apr 24, 2021). "Shakshuka: All mixed up over a brilliant breakfast". The Irish Times. Retrieved 2021-09-09.
"وداعا "البيض ومطيشة"". Hespress - هسبريس جريدة إلكترونية مغربية (in Arabic). 2012-10-16. Retrieved 2022-01-26.
Salah, Maha (14 February 2020). "Shakshuka". Middle East Monitor.

Proposed alternative sources:

"shakshuka". Collins Dictionary.
"shakshuka". Oxford English Dictionary.

~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:49, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Two-state solution

Should the introduction of this article mention or address Zionism? إيان (talk) 07:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Titles of European monarchs

In the absence of a need to disambiguate, how should we title the articles of European imperial and royal monarchs?

Louis XVI^[a]
King Louis XVI^[b]
Louis XVI of France^[c]
King Louis XVI of France^[d]
Louis XVI, King of France^[e]
Louis XVI (king of France)^[f]
Louis XVI (France)^[g]
Louis XVI, king of France^[h]
Use the common name; do not apply a consistent style

If you support multiple options, please rank your preferences to assist the closer in identifying consensus. 22:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Out-of-place artifact

Is it okay to add "Rust prevention technology of Terracotta army", to the article list?...the reverted edit dif 08:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Talk:National Rally

How should the modern National Rally be described in the infobox?

Option #1: Right-wing to far right
Option #2: Right-wing ONLY
Option #3: Far-right ONLY
Option #4: Radical right to far-right
Option #5: Hard right to far-right
Option #6: The political position line should be removed.
Option #7: Other option not listed.

Looking to establish consensus. Thank you! KlayCax (talk) 03:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Pennsylvania Dutch

Should the "Fancy Dutch religion and Anglo-American prejudice" section contain a quote from 1903 in which the Fraktur typeface is used instead of the standard Wikipedia font? Thanks in advance to all those leaving their comments. Vlaemink (talk) 17:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Ernest Hemingway

Should the section Spanish Civil War contain the below paragraphs? For details and arguments exchanged, please see above

--Hh1718 (talk) 12:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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